[parisa]

But these guys are punks - and they respect force. I guarantee you, if the U.S. moves against them in a hard way, they won't fight back - they'll realize that we aren't a bunch of cowards.

The problem is that our immigration war is not necessarily with the illegals themselves at this point but with fellow Americans right HERE at home -- albeit leftist Americans! -- and here at home we'll loose this war, along with elections and political power for a long time to come if we persist in pushing on this front.

I agree with your sentiments, but to kick out illegals who've lived here sometimes for decades? I just can't get my head around how that can be achieved. It's unrealistic and just won't ever happen. It'll ricochet around the world.

As I mentioned before I believe focusing on securing the borders is much more vital and achievable.

That's how I see it.

[Regulator]

I just can't get my head around how that can be achieved

One illegal at a time.

Do that enough times, and the rest will get the message.

It's happening as we speak in Arizona...where I'm from.

No nonsense laws were passed. So they kicked, they screamed, they huffed, they puffed....just like my kid....and then....they had to leave.

Because even the courts couldn't give them a pass. The citizens of Arizona held fast, and didn't give in to the Leftist hustle: lawsuits, name calling, guilt tripping, finger pointing, race baiting, threats of violence, actual violence, whining, crying, whatever they can dream up....nope, they finally ran into a wall: real Americans who said, "these are our laws. obey them now".

Read post 28 and 29. They add things I would have added too.

It's a matter of will. And let the Left in this country scream. The only thing the world will take from it is this: the Americans are serious about their laws. Don't screw with them.