Posted on 03/11/2008 10:51:04 AM PDT by bamahead
I think we need the plane. F-16's and F-18A's are looking pretty dated. This plane will fly for the next 20+ years. Plus, we'd be hamstrung with only ~180 if China and the USSR ever start acting like real Commies again.
“I think we need the plane. F-16’s and F-18A’s are looking pretty dated.”
Well my understanding is the F-22 is an Air Force-only plane. The F35 Lightning II will the plane the is the “one size fits all” plane for the Navy, Air force and Marines.
Agreed - we better have something to replace the F-16s.
You don’t make defense hardware decisions based on jobs won or lost. You make them based on the resources needed to carry out the projected mission(s). Stopping production short would appear unwise based on the latter. Want to save some money? Look at entitlements.
Caping this production at 188 planes is idiotic beyond belief. The major cost of these planes is the development stage. As more plane are produced, the overall cost of each plane is reduced. Cutting the production run at 188 planes (or thereabouts) would simply mean each plane cost more to make, and would leave us with a drastic shortfall when push came to shove.
It takes something like a decade or more to bring new planes from the drawing board to reality. If we capped out at 188 planes here, we would be limiting ourselves for more than a decade to come. That would be very unwise IMO.
Well, I think the F22 was a replacement for the F15, a plane that was recently grounded for possible structural problems.(they have since been giving the green light) A plane is only suppose fly so many hours and with an on going WOT many of the planes are pass their shelf life. That’s why they need more F22s. F35s will replace the F16 and several other planes. But I hope they can at least get the F22 numbers up north of 250.
Doughty, watch your blood pressure (and your spelling). This F22 thingie is only an interim measure to get us to the F35II. Now let's see, we should be able to afford about 6 of those!
That's when we really should get excited. But I am not worried. President Algonquin J. Obama will be able to sweet-talk any potential enemies we might have into instant cooperation. In fact, we won't even need armed forces at all.
Say, I wonder if the CHICOM know the words to "Koom-By-Ah My Lord, Koom-By-Ah?"
187 F-22s? There’s no way they’ll be enough to replace the what? 800 or so F-15 and 1,000 or so F-16s in service.
LOL, I’m feeling better already...
Agreed...If the F-15 is replaced by the F-22 in the ANG units that protect the homeland it will require an additional 96 planes, I believe that should be done.
Do you believe the F35 II is a better plane?
There are some things I like about it, but there are also some things I don’t like about it.
Thanks.
Those F 22s and F35s are just the front lines, those 800 F 15s and 1,000 F 16s will be around for decades while they work the kinks out of the F22 and F 35. The older iron are still among the most capable airplanes the world has ever seen.
Think thin black line of B-1s and B-2s, backed up by a couple hundred B-52’s, which have been in service since when, 1917 or so? Literally the grandchildren of the original pilots are flying them today!
We need 1000 of these incredible birds.
Well, it's an OK plane, but as an AD-1 man and former crop-duster, I do not trust anything without a propeller. Plus, I understand these young fellows plan on flying around in them at night ... and in bad weather. Too scary for me, dude!
Plus, at 1100 mph at 60,000ft, how do you navigate? You can't see roads or RR tracks, or painted signs from up there. These kids today!
The B-52 is projected to stay in service through at least 2040 when most of the airframes will be at least 80 years old.
LOL
Think about the number of planes in terms of states. 180 planes is 3.6 planes per state. 250 would be 5 per state. Either way that’s hardly huge numbers.
Think about the number of planes in terms of states. 180 planes is 3.6 planes per state. 250 would be 5 per state. Either way that’s hardly huge numbers.
They still have this stored at D-M for a last line of defense.
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