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Florida Democrats now like mail-in ballots
Hot Air ^ | March 09, 2008 | by Ed Morrissey

Posted on 03/09/2008 1:05:00 PM PDT by jdm

In 2000, the Democrats in Florida fought to keep out military absentee ballot sent in by mail from determining who would be the next President. Eight years later, Florida Democrats want to conduct an entire primary by mail. What’s changed? Oh, yes — their own incompetence:

[T]he disqualification of Florida and Michigan has created a headache for the Democratic party due to the unexpected closeness of the race between Obama and Clinton. Officials from both states are trying to figure out how best to resolve the issue before the national convention in August.

DNC Chairman Howard Dean said a mail-in primary is “actually a very good process.”

“Every voter gets a ballot in the mail,” the former Vermont governor said on CBS’s “Face the Nation.” “It’s comprehensive, you get to vote if you’re in Iraq or in a nursing home. It’s not a bad way to do this.”

As for who pays, Dean said, “That is a problem,” reiterating that the party needs its money for the general election campaign against Republican John McCain.

He also ruled out the state of Florida, where Republican Gov. Charlie Crist has nixed the idea. Dean suggested the state Democratic party might foot the bill. Florida’s political parties, unlike the DNC, can accept unlimited contributions.

Let’s recap.  The state Democratic parties in Florida and Michigan deliberately break the rules to bump up their primaries.  The DNC and Howard Dean react by stripping them of all their delegates and demanding candidates stop campaigning in those states, but in Michigan failing to have all of them take their names off the ballot.  Not only does it turn out that both states could have played a much more effective role if they had kept their original primary dates, but now they don’t have the money for proper do-overs.

And now?  The same state that complained about the complexity of butterfly ballots and the computation of punch cards that had been in use for decades (with a ballot designed by Democrats) now wants to use an unprecedented, hand-managed mail-in election to ensure fairness in the nominating process.

Did Alan Funt decide to do a new, political version of Candid Camera?  Is this a new edition of the Dick Clark/Ed McMahon show, Practical Jokes?  If not, then perhaps its aftermath will qualify.  What happens if the race becomes close in Florida?  Thousands of people will complain that they didn’t receive the ballots, or that the ballots never got counted.  Rather than have a state elections board manage the process, the Democrats will have to do it themselves, lending all kinds of possibilities for conspiracy theorists.

The end result will have little credibility and will make the morass over the Democratic nomination even uglier.  It will clarify nothing except that more than checks get lost in the mail.  Lawsuits will abound, and the DNC will still have the same problem it has now about seating a Florida delegation at the convention — except that they may have competing delegations now.

Had Dean imposed the same kind of penalty that the Republicans did on Michigan and Florida — stripping them of half of their delegates — the problem would not exist.  Now all of the solutions will cost an astronomical amount of money to implement, and that means money from their general-campaign funds against John McCain.  They now have to adopt a method they fought eight years ago and use a system with far less reliability than that they have demonized ever since.  Welcome to Democratic consistency and character.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: ballots; cultureofcorruption; demcompetence; democrats; dnc; doover; fl2008; florida2008; floriduh; hillary; howtostealanelection

1 posted on 03/09/2008 1:05:01 PM PDT by jdm
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To: jdm

How can there be a do-over?

Democrats voted in the GOP primaries because they knew that there was no competition for the Democrat presidential ticket.

They screwed up OUR process. And they whine when Republicans, facing NO option now on the presidential candidate on their own ticket try to influence who the OTHER candidate is.

ONE of the 3 people will become president and EVERYONE should have a say in that, not just Democrats who are yet again voting multiple times.


2 posted on 03/09/2008 1:10:42 PM PDT by weegee (My comments do not reflect on McCain. I am voting AGAINST Hillary and Obama.)
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To: jdm

Makes sense...why stuff the ballot boxes when the US Postal Boxes can be stuffed instead? Think of all the gasoline it will save too and illegals won’t need to show proof of ID.


3 posted on 03/09/2008 1:12:39 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: tflabo

I heard that the Democrats were requiring a form of ID when they came back on primary day to “caucus” in Texas.

Why is it they don’t require an ID to vote but they do support it for caucusing?


4 posted on 03/09/2008 1:18:01 PM PDT by weegee (My comments do not reflect on McCain. I am voting AGAINST Hillary and Obama.)
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To: weegee

Why are the Dems the only ones that can change the rules??
I think we should demand a do-over and start the whole damn thing over.......


5 posted on 03/09/2008 1:21:11 PM PDT by CMailBag
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To: jdm

BTW, pondering — are hotair.com articles of value or relevance, after their twisted behavior, this primary season?


6 posted on 03/09/2008 1:22:37 PM PDT by unspun (Mike Huckabee: Government's job is "protect us, not have to provide for us." Duncan Hunter knows.)
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To: unspun

If the dems have their do over, then we should also adn since a conservative may get traction there all the primarys after should be do overs.. makes sense to me, we can kick this inferior candidate to the curb.


7 posted on 03/09/2008 1:31:15 PM PDT by Billg64 (LOL ROFL Senator Mccain for what????)
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To: jdm
I hope that you caught Britt Hume spanking Rep. Debbie Wasserman-Schultz this morning on FOX.

She blamed the DNC-Florida Primary vote problem on Republicans.

The measure was apparently introduced in the Florida legislature by a Democrat and passed unanimously. That is what I got out of it.

She was clearly unnerved by the facts, and the issue was dodged effectively after the exchange.

8 posted on 03/09/2008 1:31:42 PM PDT by Radix (There are two types of Tag Lines,: Short snappy ones, and the other kind that seem to go on and)
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To: weegee

I agree only fair thing to do is start all over, Democrats,Republicans and Conservatives..hehehehe..


9 posted on 03/09/2008 1:33:53 PM PDT by rolling_stone (same)
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To: jdm
the DNC will still have the same problem it has now about seating a Florida delegation at the convention — except that they may have competing delegations now.


10 posted on 03/09/2008 1:38:47 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: jdm

Florida democrats need some serious waterboarding! lol That state has screwed up big time! So has Michigan! Now, good old Hillary, who was smart enough to remain on the ballot, while others obeyed the DNC rules, wants to have all of her votes counted. lol If there is a re-do in those states, you can be sure of two things: one, the stupid taxpayers will be paying for it, and, two, the outcome will be clouded in ‘process’ rather than results. lol


11 posted on 03/09/2008 1:54:00 PM PDT by Continental Soldier
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To: Radix

And since the Clinton campaign stated spinning that fairy tale the FL Republican party has said:


12 posted on 03/09/2008 3:43:00 PM PDT by PogySailor (Murtha'd: To be attacked by a corrupt politician for doing your job.)
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To: jdm
Now all of the solutions will cost an astronomical amount of money to implement,...

And a like amount to litigate.

13 posted on 03/09/2008 5:53:18 PM PDT by realdifferent1 (What do the people of China call their good plates?)
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To: Billg64
...since a conservative may get traction there all the primarys after should be do overs.. makes sense to me, we can kick this inferior candidate to the curb.

Why not?

Let's have a John McCain vs. Mike Huckabee Florida Primary....

14 posted on 03/09/2008 10:42:22 PM PDT by unspun (Mike Huckabee: Government's job is "protect us, not have to provide for us." Duncan Hunter knows.)
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To: jdm
Hey we are just about all mail in ballots here in Washington State and the dems quickly learned after our governor's race debacle how easy it is to manipulate mail in ballots. It makes it real easy.

Of course changing the rules along the way always helps.

15 posted on 03/09/2008 10:53:23 PM PDT by Vicki (Washington State where anyone can vote .... illegals, non-residents, dead people, dogs, felons)
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