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McCain, Republicans, and "Global Warming"
town hall ^ | 3/9/08 | Austin Hill

Posted on 03/09/2008 11:10:05 AM PDT by Billg64

Think you can sidestep the issue of “global warming,” simply by voting Republican?

Think again. Now that Senator John McCain is officially the Republican nominee for President, global warming is, whether anyone likes it or not, an “issue” for both of our nation’s dominant political parties. McCain has been gravitating towards this issue for several years, and made his mark with it during his chairing of the U.S. Senate hearings on global warming back in 2004

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: 2008; agw; globalwarming; globullwarming; gop; gorebullwarming; issues; mccain; mccaingore; mccaingwarming; mccainlieberman; mccainsucks; mccrazy; mcfraud; mcinsane; mctraitor; president
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Th story goes on to draw distinctions between Obam, Clinton and Mccain, but without conservative congress members we are going to be making economic decisions and decisions of sovereignty and decisions on energy based on theory and UN mandates.
1 posted on 03/09/2008 11:10:06 AM PDT by Billg64
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2 posted on 03/09/2008 11:13:08 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ("What fellowship has light with darkness?")
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3 posted on 03/09/2008 11:13:51 AM PDT by steelyourfaith
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"whether anyone likes it or not, an issue for both of our nation’s dominant political parties"

Then, whether they like it or not, those parties become that much less dominant.


4 posted on 03/09/2008 11:14:48 AM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: Billg64
This global warming caused by increased carbon dioxide is a big farce. Scientists KNOW that the earth was warmer in earlier times and it couldn't have been caused by burning fossil fuels. Also the temperature has RISEN one degree in the last century - hardly a crisis.
5 posted on 03/09/2008 11:15:21 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Billg64
It really doesn't matter if McCain is more “moderate” than the others. The fact is HE is continuing to take us down the WRONG PATH. That path is disastrous. I'm not going to quibble to what degree it is LESS disastrous than another candidate.
6 posted on 03/09/2008 11:16:44 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: I see my hands

John McCain’s ‘Global Warming’ Hearings Blasted by Climatologist
By Marc Morano
CNSNews.com Senior Staff Writer
November 19, 2004

Washington (CNSNews.com) - Recent U.S. Senate hearings into alleged global warming, chaired by Arizona Republican John McCain, were among the “most biased” that a noted climatologist has ever seen - “much less balanced than anything I saw in the Clinton administration,” he said.

Patrick J. Michaels is the author of a new book “Meltdown: The Predictable Distortion of Global Warming by Scientists, Politicians, and the Media.” He is an environmental sciences professor at the University of Virginia who believes that claims of human-caused “global warming” are scientifically unfounded.

Michaels spoke with CNSNews.com Thursday following a panel discussion sponsored by the libertarian Cato Institute in Washington, D.C., where Michaels also serves as a senior fellow in environmental studies.

“John McCain, a Republican, has probably held the most biased hearing of all,” Michaels said. McCain is a big proponent of limiting greenhouse gas emissions, which he believes are causing “global warming.” The Arizona senator also “is trying to define himself as an environmental Republican, which he is going to use to differentiate himself from his rivals for the (presidential) nomination in 2008,” according to Michaels.

Earlier this week, McCain, the outgoing chairman of the Senate Commerce, Science and Transportation Committee, said the Bush administration’s views about human-caused climate change were “terribly disappointing.”

McCain also held a Senate hearing on Tuesday to enlist testimony on the recently released report from an international commission called the Arctic Climate Impact Assessment (ACIA), which warned about rising temperatures in the North Pole.

Citing a visit he had to the Arctic with several U.S. senators last summer, McCain made it clear that he believed human-caused “global warming” was a certainty.

“It was remarkable going up on a small ship next to this glacier and seeing where it had been just 10 short years ago and how quickly it’s receded,” McCain told the New York Times on Monday.

McCain also warned about what he saw as the rapid pace of Arctic warming, evidenced by the arrival of wildlife that had never previously been seen in the region. “The Inuit language for 10,000 years never had a word for robin and now there are robins all over their villages,” he told the Times.

Michaels refuted McCain’s assertions about the North Pole, noting that the Arctic has actually been warmer in the past than it is now.

“It was warmer 4 to 7,000 years ago [in the Arctic.] Every climatologist knows that. I saw no mention of that in the Arctic report that was paraded in front of McCain,” Michaels said. He added that the past warming of the Arctic couldn’t possibly be blamed on greenhouse gas emissions since it occurred long before the industrial era.

‘Temperature has always changed’

Other participants in Thursday’s panel discussion also disputed McCain’s statements. Harvard Astrophysicist Sallie Baliunas agreed that using the polar ice caps to promote “global warming” did not make sense.

“Antarctica has been cooling for the last 50 years. Most of the Arctic has not warmed over long time scales,” Baliunas told CNSNews.com. Baliunas also serves as the enviro-science editor for Tech Central Station.

“Temperatures [have] always changed in the past and [they] always will. It can either go up or it goes down. We don’t have enough understanding of natural variability and we don’t see enormous amounts of temperature change to be alarmed about,” Baliunas explained.

She also blasted the Kyoto Protocol, the international treaty to limit greenhouse gases which the U.S. does not support. “The Kyoto (Protocol) does not work, no matter what you think of it because Kyoto won’t do anything meaningful.”

McCain’s claims about a robin population explosion in the Arctic were refuted as well.

Marlo Lewis, a senior fellow at the Competitive Enterprise Institute (CEI), said “Even if it’s true that robins are making their first appearance in Arctic areas, what it means is that the robin’s habitat is expanding.”

“I always thought environmentalists liked birds. To me this is good news,” Lewis added.

‘Playing the media’

Michaels lamented that the media are allowing certain government-funded scientists to manipulate science for funding advantages. “Scientists are playing the media because they know the media will publish a story that the world is about to end,” he said.

“What has happened to the editing process? What has happened to fact checking,” he wondered.

Baliunas noted that the media like to imply that the overwhelming majority of scientists believe in dire “global warming” scenarios. In fact, she said, “The scientific literature is full of skepticism. The only problem is — one doesn’t get the call from the newspapers and those [skeptical] quotes don’t get included.”

Lewis of the CEI added, “The embrace of government and government funding corrupts whatever it touches and that is certainly the case of the scientific process.”

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=%5CNation%5Carchive%5C200411%5CNAT20041119a.html


7 posted on 03/09/2008 11:17:58 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ("What fellowship has light with darkness?")
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It's quite NORMAL for temperature to fluctuate!

“Climate change” is NORMAL. There is NO CRISIS in that. As they say the "red" is now "green". It's just another way to suck money form you and reduce your standard of living while LIBERAL elites benefit. G.E. and Al Gore and VERY close ... gee I wonder why - hint the new "light bulbs" ... and on and on it goes. These new "light bulbs" are MORE of a hazard than the imaginary problem they are trying to solve - more mercury in the environment and how to dispose of them is a bigger problem.

8 posted on 03/09/2008 11:21:52 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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The turning point on global warming

By John McCain and Joe Lieberman | February 13, 2007

THERE IS NOW a broad consensus in this country, and indeed in the world, that global warming is happening, that it is a serious problem, and that humans are causing it.

*snip*

Indeed, if we fail to start substantially reducing greenhouse gas emissions in the next couple of years, we risk bequeathing a diminished world to our grandchildren.

*snip*

Congress must move forward in a bipartisan fashion. Democrats will not enact a strong new climate law without the help and support of their Republican colleagues. Working in a bi-partisan fashion, Congress will enact a law that curbs global warming even as it strengthens the economy.

The debate has ended over whether global warming is a problem caused by human activity. Consequently, we can and must act now to solve the problem, or else we will bequeath a dangerous and diminished world to our children and grandchildren.

*snip*

John McCain is a Republican senator of Arizona. Joe Lieberman is an independent senator of Connecticut.

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2007/02/13/the_turning_point_on_global_warming/


9 posted on 03/09/2008 11:23:06 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ("What fellowship has light with darkness?")
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To: EternalVigilance
Good post.

I hope more people READ it and THINK!

They, liberals and junk Scientists fail to tell you that in other regions the ICE IS INCRESAING. It's all part of a NORMAL CYCLE of “climate change”.

10 posted on 03/09/2008 11:23:45 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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We may as well face it, the USA is going to have a tough four years with any of the three bozos left. They all drink from the same kool aid and want to have praise lavished on them by the MSM. All three left want the average American to drive a sub compact, live in big cities and take mass transit, of course, for the children.
11 posted on 03/09/2008 11:26:24 AM PDT by nyconse
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McCain vows to fight global warming
January 7, 2008

By Michael Kranish, Globe Staff

CONCORD, N.H. — In his final push for a primary victory, Senator John McCain arrived here this afternoon and made a pitch that might have surprised voters: He cast himself as the environmentalist of the presidential campaign.

“I will clean up the planet,” McCain said. “I will make global warming a priority.”

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Speaking outside the statehouse, McCain was cheered by a group of sign-wielding environmentalists. McCain cheered them back: “Way to go, global warming folks!” A hoarse-sounding McCain told the crowd: “I want to assure you I will make this planet clean ... we will hand to you a cleaner planet than the one you were living in before I became president of the United States, I promise you that.”

Moments later, as if on cue, a chunk of melting snow from the statehouse roof landed near McCain. Momentarily surprised, McCain assured the crowd he was OK.

“It’s just snow, thank you,” McCain said. “That’s that climate change there.”

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/01/mccain_vows_to.html


12 posted on 03/09/2008 11:26:39 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ("What fellowship has light with darkness?")
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I'll be sitting the election out.

We have a bunch of Demoncrats competing to be President.

I have NEVER EVER not voted in a Presidential or any other election. This time, I simply can't hold my nose and do the dirty deed. This has to stop. The “big tent” helped cause this idiotic nonsense. We don't have CLEAR thinking and INFORMED people representing us.

13 posted on 03/09/2008 11:29:21 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nyconse

New tagline...


14 posted on 03/09/2008 11:30:27 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The Reds haven't gone anywhere. They just put on a Green cloak...)
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To: nmh

They want you to sit it out.


15 posted on 03/09/2008 11:31:19 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The Reds haven't gone anywhere. They just put on a Green cloak...)
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Oh good grief, he did not really say those things did he?

You know - I didn’t think it was possible for me to loathe McCain any more than I already do. Now I see that it is.

And yet there are many Republicans who think there’s a difference between McCain and either Hillary or Obama.


16 posted on 03/09/2008 11:35:16 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow ("Never get involved in a land war in Asia.")
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To: nmh

Global Warming socialism is the most dangerous and important issue of our time - more dangerous than the WOT because of the way it can be soft pedaled. It has the potential to rob us of more treasure and freedom than the global jihad.

John McCain seems to be no different than the most far left Rat on this issue. We are in for a rough ride.


17 posted on 03/09/2008 11:35:17 AM PDT by BigBobber
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To: nmh
RAMM
18 posted on 03/09/2008 11:36:40 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Billg64
Now that Senator John McCain is officially the Republican nominee for President

That overstates the case. He isn't officially the nominee until the convention votes on it.

19 posted on 03/09/2008 11:36:49 AM PDT by DManA
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To: EternalVigilance

“They want you to sit it out.”

I admit I am torn - more than any other previous election.

The GOP has LEFT me. I no longer relate to the GOP. I have difficulty swallowing the line of voting for McCain so the other one doesn’t get in. There is so little difference between McCain and either of the two and MORE IMPORTANTLY I am being TOTALLY COMPROMISED each time there is an election. I have principles. I know what is right and wrong. I’m not ignorant about issues and see McCain too far to the left ... . Either way, a Demoncrat will be in the WH = because we ALLOW IT - even if they’re running as a Republican.


20 posted on 03/09/2008 11:37:30 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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