Posted on 03/07/2008 7:48:16 PM PST by Amelia
A New York City charter school set to open in 2009 in Washington Heights will test one of the most fundamental questions in education: Whether significantly higher pay for teachers is the key to improving schools.
The school, which will run from fifth to eighth grades, is promising to pay teachers $125,000, plus a potential bonus based on schoolwide performance. That is nearly twice as much as the average New York City public school teacher earns, roughly two and a half times the national average teacher salary and higher than the base salary of all but the most senior teachers in the most generous districts nationwide.
The school’s creator and first principal, Zeke M. Vanderhoek, contends that high salaries will lure the best teachers. He says he wants to put into practice the conclusion reached by a growing body of research: that teacher quality — not star principals, laptop computers or abundant electives — is the crucial ingredient for success.
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
I'm trying to figure out which schools raise the national average of teacher pay...I'm not there yet...
Yeah, that’s it. Throw money at it and it will be better.
The answer is NO!
THAT"S been proven over and over, a thousand times over.
Only higher pay for GOOD teachers matters.
why teachers should be compensated so much above social workers, police, counselors, cpas', etc is beyond me...they work 1/2 a year in reality....
Pay should be based on success as it is in the private sector. If that is the case then we will see either colossal positive change or collosal failure. Should be an interesting experiment either way.
Prison guards in California make that kind of money. “Pay me now or pay me later.”
“The school’s creator and first principal, Zeke M. Vanderhoek, contends that high salaries will lure the best teachers”
It works in the business world; why not education?
Sorry, as a teacher I disagree. The calender year may show only 190 days...but most private-sector people only work 240 days a year.
The days may work out to be less, but the hours certainly do not, I (and most other teacher’s I know) spend about 12 hours a day between work, planning, and grading.
Trust me we (at least the ones who care) work the same hours every year just in fewer days. The whole time we have to deal with dead-beat parents and incompetent administrators.
I don’t disagree that some teachers are overpaid or a waste of space. However, there are many more who do a lot of work and really are not well compensated compared to the private sector.
Also the teachers will work longer hours and assume more duties than the normal NY teacher, and the students will tend to be from the lower socioeconomic levels.
It certainly would be a good start.
My school district has just over 1500 students with over 12 administrators making over $70,000 a year. Meanwhile the average teacher makes about $33,000 and have gone two years without ANY raise, while admin get a 4% raise every year.
Maybe they should also try requiring that for that kind of pay, teachers must have been at the top of their college graduating class instead of the bottom as the majority of the teachers in the U.S. are.
You didn’t read the article. See post #11.
Not all teachers have an education background in college.
I am non-traditional, it seems to be that elementary teachers are dumb, while high school teachers are very strong on academically, especially on their content area.
To label all teachers as ignorant is simply ignorant.
Yes, exactly the idea. I hope the paper will continue covering the school...I’m interested to see whether or not it works.
This overhead drain is a BIG problem. Local school boards would be wise to tackle this first an foremost.
Hey Babe! I got news for you. Most of us work 24/7 x 365 paying the morons produced by the public school system and being forced to give them benefits and worker’s comp.
We pay our taxes quarterly and our own benefits. Gov’t jobs are cush compared, try running your own. Everybody deals with a** holes no matter where you go. The populace is getting dumber and dumber as years go by but our property taxes are going through the roof, all to pay for “the education of the Children”. Somebody hand me a barf bag!
We work our asses off so that our kids never have to darken the door of a public Government school.
There are eight public school teachers in my life. Every single one of them sends their children to private or paroichial school.
What does that say?
It’s just the facts.
Actually I did read the article but more importantly, I understood what I read.
“only those scoring at the 90th percentile in the verbal section of the GRE, GMAT or similar tests need apply”...
I don’t care what they score on a single test. If they skate through college and then score in the top 10% on a test, they should be rejected. I witness teachers everyday who are on autopilot and not taking their responsibilities seriously. There are enough of them in the public schools and giving them more pay is not going to solve anything.
How you apply yourself during your ENTIRE time in school is more reflective of how you will conduct yourself at your job and should be the determining factor on if you get the job. Show me a student who gave 100% of themselves in high school and then in college and I’d be willing to pay them six digits to teach.
To me, it says you live in a liberal urban area in either the Northeast or California.
Am I correct?
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