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US Supports Creating New Islamic State In Europe
Watch Organization ^ | February 18, 2008 | Bill Wilson

Posted on 03/07/2008 10:59:31 AM PST by dvan

With the support of the United States and the opposition of Russia and China, Kosovo has declared its independence from Serbia, and in doing so, has laid hold of Serbia’s most celebrated Christian shrines.

The Kosovo declaration of independence oddly puts the United States and several of its allies in direct support of establishing the third Islamic state in Europe, in addition to Albania and Bosnia. The move fans the flames of a struggle between Christians and Islamists that dates back to the Ottoman Empire takeover of Serbia in 1389.

Over the next 400 years, the Islamists controlled the former Christian empire of Serbia. According to historic accounts, many Christian Albanians converted to Islam to avoid high taxes and persecution from Muslims. In the 1870’s the Christian Serbs once again tried to retake Serbia, but were defeated and over a quarter of a million Serbs were ethnically cleansed from Kosovo between 1876 and 1912 by Turkish and Albanian Muslims. Fighting continued through the 1900’s until the area became a segregated part of Yugoslavia and later, part of Serbia. Enter communist Slobodan Milosevic who rose to power and took over Kosovo, which was striving for independence in the 1980’s.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: bush; clinton; clintonswar; islam; kosovo; serbia; wot
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To: beethovenfan

“For once I agree with Russia and China”

I believe it was Kruchef(sp)

who said, “I don’t have to do anything, you will destroy yourselves.”


21 posted on 03/07/2008 11:46:04 AM PST by Larebil (My name is liberal backwards, since they backwards thinking)
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To: wideawake
“but Serbia is extremely tight with Ahmadinejad”

Are they bombing Iran's enemies (us) like we did for the Muslim Albanians who invaded Serbia and helped Muslims annex part of their country? Come to think of it, if we were in Serbia's position, we would probably be friends with any country that was enemies with a country that had bombed us and taken our territory too. Le me ask you this. Who sided with Muslim terrorists first? Was it our collaboration with the KLA or theirs with Iran?

22 posted on 03/07/2008 11:51:38 AM PST by monday
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To: wideawake
Neither Albania, nor Bosnia nor Kosovo are Islamic States.

Not yet...those Saudi petrodollars can work some really nasty magic.

23 posted on 03/07/2008 11:51:45 AM PST by E. Cartman (Huckaboob will never be Vice President.)
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To: wideawake
“Not really. They were quite compliant Ottoman citizens for the vast majority of that timeframe.”

No. There you are wrong. They never submitted to Islamic rule like the Albanians did.

24 posted on 03/07/2008 11:54:14 AM PST by monday
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

Before taxes, yes.


25 posted on 03/07/2008 11:57:36 AM PST by rattrap
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To: wideawake

Try reading the history of the Balkans before making ignorant statements.

You are an idiot.


26 posted on 03/07/2008 12:07:28 PM PST by SamiGirl
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To: SamiGirl
Try reading the history of the Balkans before making ignorant statements.

Luckily, I've adopted the option of simply not making ignorant statements.

You are an idiot.

And clearly you have chosen a different option.

27 posted on 03/07/2008 12:17:04 PM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: dvan

McCain was instrumental in creating this mess, as were several of our neocon “intellectuals.”


28 posted on 03/07/2008 12:19:01 PM PST by Mamzelle (Time for Conservatives to go Free Agent)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen
your newspeak is too.

Just remember: if Big Brother does exist, he's probably spending most of his time watching Little Sister through a keyhole.

29 posted on 03/07/2008 12:47:53 PM PST by Digital Sniper (Hello, "Undocumented Immigrant." I'm an "Undocumented Border Patrol Agent.")
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To: All

The US has made an enemy of the Christian Serbs and alienated Russia to create a second Muslim state in the Balkans at the expense of Orthodox Christian Serbs.

Now that Kosovo has declared independence and was recognized by the European Union and Jorge Bush. Muslims have burned down more than 400 Orthodox Christian Shrines in Kosovo. How many times has this been reported in the MSM?

Muslim scum in the region are already screaming their heads off for a Greater Albania consisting of Albania, Kosovo and the Albanian/Muslim sectors of Serbia. A Highway is about to be completed linking Muslim Kosovo to it’s Muslim counterpart in Northern Greece(Sound familiar)

Thankfully, Romania, Greece, Bulgaria, and Spain have refused to recognize the new Republic of Kosovo. No one really knows how Putin and Russia will react to the US and the EU who have just reignited the Balkans.

This might end up being the beginning of WW III. How will US citizens react when the US government does the same thing to the United States SW?


30 posted on 03/07/2008 1:04:03 PM PST by AllseeingEye33 ("It is what it is")
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To: All

Putin has stated many times that he would not allow an independent Kosovo separated from Serbia.

It’s really unacceptable that a decision on the status of Kosove was imposed from the outside by the US and the EU.

Serbia is an Orthodox Christian nation, and traitors in the US and the EU are trying to destroy the Orthodox Christian nation of Serbia, just because it stands in their way of their multi-cultural globalization paradise where no culture or religion will dominate.

They are trying to do the same thing to the US. Mark it down, that when the time is right all hell will break loose in the US SouthWest and they will side with the illegal aliens over American citizens.

Now you know why the traitors refuse to protect the border from illegal aliens, Muslim terrorists, and all the other scum that are flooding our country from Third World Nations daily.


31 posted on 03/07/2008 1:16:55 PM PST by AllseeingEye33 ("It is what it is")
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To: E. Cartman

They are some of the most pro-Western, pro-U.S. countries around, so save your propoganda BS


32 posted on 03/07/2008 4:49:04 PM PST by NYC Republican
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To: AllseeingEye33

Putin can’t do a damn thing about it. He’s a F-en commie KGB agent... Dictator bastard... little guy with a Napolean complex... Impotent bastard


33 posted on 03/07/2008 4:50:36 PM PST by NYC Republican
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To: wideawake
Serbia has no problem with actual Islamic states...

Is that right?

Well, how about the following:

U.S. Allowed Iran to Supply Bosnian Muslims with Arms

By Daniel Williams and Thomas W. Lippman The Washington Post WASHINGTON

For more detail see:

http://www-tech.mit.edu/V115/N18/arms.18w.html

34 posted on 03/07/2008 8:33:18 PM PST by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: dvan; All
Good article. I was just reading a fascinating booklet that delves into the history of Islam and the conflict between Islam and the west throughout history.

The Middle East in Bible Prophecy

35 posted on 03/07/2008 8:36:15 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: dvan
All one has to do is read Unholy Terror by John R. Schindler—professor of strategy at the Naval War College and former National Security Agency analyst and counterintelligence officer to understand how the Islamists took over Bosnia and the terrible price the world has had to pay since at the hands of the "Bosnians".
"The long hidden truth is that Bosnia played the same role for al-Qa’ida in the 1990s that Afghanistan did in the 1980s, providing a battleground where mujahidin could learn to wage holy war. Schindler exposes how Osama bin Laden exploited the Bosnian conflict for his own ends and the disturbing level of support the U.S. government gave to the Bosnian mujahidin—just as had been done with the Afghan mujahidin. Repeating the mistakes of Afghanistan contributed to blowback of epic proportions: Khalid Sheikh Muhammad (the mastermind of 9/11) and two of the 9/11 hijacker pilots were veterans of the Bosnian jihad."

36 posted on 03/07/2008 8:57:37 PM PST by F-117A (Mr. Bush, have someone read UN Resolution 1244 to you!!!)
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To: NYC Republican
They are some of the most pro-Western, pro-U.S. countries around, so save your propoganda BS

Yes, and once upon a time The Netherlands, Germany and even France were among the West's strongest supporters. But, as I'll say again, those Wahabbi petrodollars go pretty far buying new Jihaddi's.

So save your RINO propaganda and look at history, instead.

37 posted on 03/08/2008 6:10:49 AM PST by E. Cartman (Huckaboob will never be Vice President.)
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To: F-117A
All one has to do is read

And have you read it?

One doubts it - it's simply not a serious book, inasmuch as Schindler discredits one of the main theses of the book regarding the West's uncritical acceptance of Bosnian Muslim claims through his own uncritical acceptance of the Bosnian Serb claims liberally sprinkled throughout his book.

Case in point, Schindler references the Research and Documentation Center in Sarajevo's work on overall casualties for the war in Bosnia (p. 85 "The Great Deceit"), oblivious to how that work eviscerates the Serbian claims of civilian casualties in the Drina Valley which he later repeats (p. 228 "From Drina to Dayton").

Essentially, while it is a more coherent and easier to read book than Kohlmann's "Al-Qaida's Jihad in Europe", it fails on the most basic level by embracing and promulgating the very same partisanship it decries, albeit on the other side of the issue.

Still, if one confines themselves to reading book descriptions on places such as Amazon.com, rather than reading the books themselves, one could recommend flawed books such as this, I suppose.

38 posted on 03/08/2008 1:54:02 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite; All
Schindler does not reference (on page 85) the Bosnian Federation's Research and Documentation Center which was established by the Presidency of the Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina as another muslim apologist NGO.

Regardless, your RDC document says, "The RDC research of the actual number of Serb victims in Bratunac has been the most extensive carried out in Bosnia and Herzegovina and proves that the overall number of victims is three to nine times smaller than indicated by Serbia and Montenegro .

That is laughable!!! Their "most extensive" research PROVES is "THREE TO NINE TIMES SMALLER" then indicated by Serbia and Montenegro.

"THREE TO NINE TIMES SMALLER" Such precision!!! LOL!!!

Since you imply you've read the book, why don't you list for your own benefit the number of "Bosnians" that have continued their war of terror on the world.

And if you're not a CS and muslim apologists you'd reply with that list!

39 posted on 03/08/2008 4:07:03 PM PST by F-117A (Mr. Bush, have someone read UN Resolution 1244 to you!!!)
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To: F-117A
Schindler does not reference...

p 85

A similar figure was the conclusion of a multiethnic team of Bosnians that closely examined missing persons claims using multiple computer databases, an analysis that revealed that far less than 150,000 Bosnians, and probably more like 100,000, actually died; the team could verify only 80,000 deaths. 16

Notes
Chapter 3: The Great DeceitNotes

16. "Reuters, 10 Dec 2004."

Revised death toll for Bosnian war (Reuters, AlertNet, 10 December 2004.)

You really know how to make yourself look like an informed participant in the discussion, F-117A.

40 posted on 03/08/2008 5:12:08 PM PST by Hoplite
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