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Posted on 03/07/2008 6:33:13 AM PST by CGASMIA68

Only buy or fill up your car or truck in the early morning when the ground temperature is still cold. Remember that all service stations have their storage tanks buried below ground. The colder the ground the more dense the gasoline, when it gets warmer gasoline expands, so buying in the afternoon or in the evening....your gallon is not exactly a gallon . In the petroleum business, the specific gravity and the temperature of the gasoline, diesel and jet fuel, ethanol and temperature is a big deal for this business. But the service stations donot have temperature compensation at the pumps.

When you're filling up do not squeeze the trigger of the nozzle to a fast mode . If you look you will see that the trigger has three (3) stages: low, middle, and high. In slow mode you should be pumping on low speed, thereby minimizing the vapors that are created while you are pumping. All hoses at the pump have a vapor return. If you are pumping on the fast rate, some of the liquid that goes to your tank becomes vapor. Those vapors are being sucked up and back into the underground storage tank so you're getting less worth for your money.

One of the most important tips is to fill up when your gas tank is HALF FULL . The reason for this is, the more gas you have in your tank the less air occupying its empty space. Gasoline evaporates faster than you can imagine. Gasoline storage tanks have an internal floating roof. This roof serves as zero clearance between the gas and the atmosphere, so it minimizes the evaporation. Unlike service stations, here where I work, every truck that we load is temperature compensated so that every gallon is actually the exact amount

Another reminder, if there is a gasoline truck pumping into the storage tanks when you stop to buy gas, DO NOT fill up --most likely the gasoline is being stirred up as the gas is being delivered, and you might pick up some of the dirt that normally settles on the bottom.

Dont for get(my add on) hold the hose up to get what the meter read but didnt make it to the tank...I thing you get what the guy before didnt get?


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To: Fawn

Republicans aren’t in power. Why would they lose votes?


41 posted on 03/07/2008 7:21:02 AM PST by listenhillary (Michelle Obama - America is Just Downright Mean)
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To: rose; All
A LOT of information here on how gas is measured, dispensed and accuracies. Very interesting.

It's for Arizona, but the discussion is relevant to other states as well.

http://www.users.qwest.net/~taaaz/AZgas.html

42 posted on 03/07/2008 7:21:58 AM PST by az_gila (AZ - need less democrats)
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To: t1b8zs

how to save:

example:

cost $50 to fill tank.
fill tank only half full...thus saving $25.
use savings to fill other half.

;-)


43 posted on 03/07/2008 7:23:25 AM PST by cd jones (Liberals: spreading misery, calling it equality)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Our REPUBLICAN governor took that option away from Missourians. We have mandated 10% ethanol since Jan 1, 2008. It sucks to have government mucking with the free market.


44 posted on 03/07/2008 7:24:30 AM PST by listenhillary (Michelle Obama - America is Just Downright Mean)
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To: HIDEK6

I think the whole thing=anal


45 posted on 03/07/2008 7:27:46 AM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: NavyCanDo

The cheapest gas in town just happens to be the station that uses my gas card. And I get a rebate from the card.


46 posted on 03/07/2008 7:28:43 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: listenhillary

Yeah, not so free anymore. If it was such a great product people wouldn’t have to be forced to buy it.

And there would be some people who would. But it would be a very, very small minority.

Ain’t it all about ‘choice’? Isn’t that what we’re always told? Some repubs in our state are as bad because they actually have family that owns ethanol plants. Total conflicts of interest. One repub guy pushing a bill has a brother who is in the ethanol business.


47 posted on 03/07/2008 7:31:27 AM PST by Secret Agent Man
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To: KarlInOhio
About the only way you can prove it is if you buy gasoline at the same station every time. I have heard of people getting repairs done when the truck driver screws up and mixes diesel and gasoline tanks at the station.

Yeah, I've heard of that too. Never from too much "dirt" stirred up in the bottom. Again, filters are on pumps for a reason, to prevent exactly the premise in the original post.

Oh and one more thing, the shutoff for the gasoline is in the handle. Holding the hose up does exactly zilch to get more gas out. Back in the day it was true but no longer.

48 posted on 03/07/2008 7:34:11 AM PST by Malsua
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To: Secret Agent Man
You're right about ethanol. It destroys gas mileage.

This month I'll probably average about 600 miles per week. With that kind of driving the reduction in gas mileage with 10% ethanol is astounding.

But unfortunately it's getting more difficult to find ethanol free gas.

49 posted on 03/07/2008 7:35:13 AM PST by NEPA (Save a cow, tip a beer)
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To: Secret Agent Man

In Missouri I’ve heard the Governors brother had financial interest in the ethanol plants.

R’s that do this make me ill. Let’s use a gallon of oil to make a gallon of ethanol. Infinite stupidity reins.


50 posted on 03/07/2008 7:38:14 AM PST by listenhillary (Michelle Obama - America is Just Downright Mean)
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To: t1b8zs; listenhillary

also not driving around the parking lot, looking for a parking space three feet closer to the door.


51 posted on 03/07/2008 7:38:48 AM PST by JZelle
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To: NEPA

If you find pumps without the ethanol stickers they are good. They have to by law have ethanol stickers on pumps that have ethanol gas.

If and once you find a place selling pure gas, tel l them that’s the only reason you’re filling up there and you will be a regular customer as long as they sell pure gas. The several I know of have no plans to sell ethanol gas, because so many people going to them they know are going to them for good gas.


52 posted on 03/07/2008 7:38:55 AM PST by Secret Agent Man
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To: Malsua

I stand corrected. Thanks


53 posted on 03/07/2008 7:39:13 AM PST by listenhillary (Michelle Obama - America is Just Downright Mean)
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To: Balding_Eagle
#18 "Whoever wrote this is full of the stupids.Ground temperature is very steady, and so is the fuel in the tank. "

True. Here in North Carolina the ground temp STAYS about 55 degrees when you get 8 to 15 inches underground ALL YEAR ROUND. Some of the formulas above (they are correct for the numbers they use but they) are not real world. Ground temp does not daily change 20 degrees.

54 posted on 03/07/2008 7:39:14 AM PST by Freeper (Thanx.)
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To: listenhillary

From what I’ve read it takes more energy to produce a gallon of ethanol than a gallon of gas, and the gallon of gas has about twice as much energy in it than the ethanol.


55 posted on 03/07/2008 7:40:25 AM PST by Secret Agent Man
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To: Secret Agent Man

I haven’t seen the stickers where I fill up, but maybe because it’s a state mandated 10% blend they don’t have to do it?


56 posted on 03/07/2008 7:40:31 AM PST by listenhillary (Michelle Obama - America is Just Downright Mean)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Thank you Archer Daniels Midland Co. Corporate welfare queen over all others.


57 posted on 03/07/2008 7:42:17 AM PST by listenhillary (Michelle Obama - America is Just Downright Mean)
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To: listenhillary

That could be, if it is state-wide. I’ve had the misfortune to live in a state that had the more populous counties being forced to use it (where I am) and the rest of the state has had good gas. But now many of the areas that don’t have to have ethanol gas are selling it because of incentives so it has gotten harder to find it.


58 posted on 03/07/2008 7:42:46 AM PST by Secret Agent Man
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To: listenhillary

It’s a lot of people. It all boils down to greed of one kind or another. The politicians who have vested (conflicting) interests in producing ethanol. The farmers who are cashing in food crops for ethanol and still getting paid NOT to plant in their fields to artificially keep corn prices high. The ethanol producers themselves. The environuts who still don’t realize ethanol pollutes worse than just gas alone.


59 posted on 03/07/2008 7:45:30 AM PST by Secret Agent Man
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To: Secret Agent Man
I look for the stickers (small blue in PA, I don't know if that's national).

It seems the most convenient stations for me locally have ethanol. I've been driving out of my way a little bit (more of a time factor that extra miles) to get ethanol free gas locally. On the road it's actually easier. Three of my weekly destinations have fairly convenient stations. I know of stations nearly 100 miles from my house that I can stop at.

One morning I was in a hurry so I got a few dollars of gas at the local station with ethanol. I burned through gas so fast I thought I had a leak. I seriously considered having my car towed. On the road I filled up with non ethanol gas - problem solved. The mechanic said there may have been too much ethanol or some other problem with the gas.

60 posted on 03/07/2008 7:53:16 AM PST by NEPA (Save a cow, tip a beer)
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