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Immigration split still hangs over McCain and Republicans
Politico ^ | 05 Mar 2008 | Patrick O'Connor

Posted on 03/06/2008 5:53:24 PM PST by BGHater

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"Latinos are not a group on the fringes of our society that can be manipulated to score political points. If this presidential primary season has shown us anything, it is that Latinos are no longer the sleeping giant in American politics – they are fully awake, active and making a difference.

Anarchy in the streets is "making a difference"?


21 posted on 03/06/2008 6:38:11 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: BGHater

bttt


22 posted on 03/06/2008 6:41:48 PM PST by Guenevere (If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all.)
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To: BGHater

Sounds to me like Sen. Bob Menendez (D-N.J.) is saying he almost has enough Hispanic voters to keep the borders open.


23 posted on 03/06/2008 6:43:49 PM PST by Haddit (A Hunter Conservative)
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To: BGHater

>None of these proposals is likely to see the light of day unless ...

unless pigs fly


24 posted on 03/06/2008 6:45:40 PM PST by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: Rockitz
Not that it will make a big difference out here in California, Texas but I won't be voting for McCain.

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25 posted on 03/06/2008 7:03:51 PM PST by Ron H. (Count me in the swelling ranks of recently unDocumented & dissatisfied former Republicans.)
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To: norton
and I will happily vote for your sorry ass.

He is a traitorous bastard. His word is no good. How shall we trust any promise he might make?

26 posted on 03/06/2008 7:05:23 PM PST by roamer_1 (Conservative always, Republican no more.)
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To: donna

Guilty! Guilty! Guilty! Guilty! Guilty! Guilty!


27 posted on 03/06/2008 7:15:27 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (The GOP serves a huge cr*p sandwich every 4 years to Conservatives, & sez "shut up!, no choice!")
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To: donna
These six men you just pictured here, each of them, wear horrendous evil and sin on their faces.

Even an ACTOR could not get it that "real".

Amazing.

28 posted on 03/06/2008 7:16:21 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (The GOP serves a huge cr*p sandwich every 4 years to Conservatives, & sez "shut up!, no choice!")
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To: donna; calcowgirl

I could have been referring just now to the photos in #21, too!


29 posted on 03/06/2008 7:18:12 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (The GOP serves a huge cr*p sandwich every 4 years to Conservatives, & sez "shut up!, no choice!")
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To: BradtotheBone

Bump for later


30 posted on 03/06/2008 7:26:59 PM PST by BradtotheBone
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To: BGHater

In a McCain administration these congressional Republicans will not be allowed to bring up such legislation.

In a Clinton or Obama administration they will be very effective in thwarting the Democrat amnesty and open borders agenda like they are doing now.

History has shown that congressional Republicans are more effective out of power than when they have it. Conservatism will grow when the Republicans are out of power and America will see what kind of incompetent fools Obama/Reid/Pelosi are.

Conservatism in the Republican party grows a backbone when they are out of power, like 1978 and 1992.

The only chance to stop the illegal immigration madness is an effective conservative minority. That can’t happen in a McCain administration.


31 posted on 03/06/2008 8:01:03 PM PST by oldbill
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“The only chance to stop the illegal immigration madness is an effective conservative minority. That can’t happen in a McCain administration.”

Unfortunate, but true. It’s good that Senator Sessions is calling McCain out on his “I got the message” line from his campaign and debate evasions on this issue. I’ve been saying McCain has nine months as a powerful senator to act on his new found wisdom.

Good that Sessions is giving him the opportunity to act on his new position, or to show the voters that he’s just a bald faced liar.


32 posted on 03/06/2008 8:42:46 PM PST by Will88
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The package of proposals unveiled by McCain's colleagues may only inflame the immigration debate. Sen. David Vitter (R-La.), for example, has proposed withholding federal law enforcement money for "sanctuary cities" that have lax immigration enforcement. Sen. John Barrasso (R-Wyo.) wants to dock states 10 percent of their highway funding if they give licenses to illegal immigrants. And Sen. James Inhofe (R-Okla.) has a bill that would make English the "national language."

Reid is afraid of a vote on these...

Hmmm. Time to call the Senate and make them act on this?

33 posted on 03/06/2008 8:43:17 PM PST by WOSG (William F Buckley: A great conservative, may he rest in peace.)
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“History has shown that congressional Republicans are more effective out of power than when they have it.”

Wrong. Out of power we never enacted welfare reform. With the majority we did; the most significant conservative reform in decades. With a GOP majority we passed the Bush tax cuts. The Democrat majority is set to take away the Bush tax cuts and create the largest tax hike ever. The majority GOP passed a good energy bill in 2005. Now the Democrat majority is trying to take that away and go in the wrong direction.

And so it goes.

“In a Clinton or Obama administration they will be very effective in thwarting the Democrat amnesty and open borders agenda like they are doing now.”

In a McCain administration, they will be very effective in thwarting the Democrat amnesty and open borders agenda like they are doing now. McCain would continue that situation. In a Clinton or Obama administration they will be IN-effective in thwarting the Democrat amnesty and open borders agenda, since Obama’s coattails will sweep in enough Democrats to implement amnesty.


34 posted on 03/06/2008 8:48:44 PM PST by WOSG (William F Buckley: A great conservative, may he rest in peace.)
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To: Will88

not true actually. see above. Our best chance at stoppy amnesty is to win as many senate seats as possible. We can only do that if McCain wins and/or does very well.

Best case scenario: McCain manages to have a huge sweep. It bring back enough Republicans in the House to make amnesty a dead letter.


35 posted on 03/06/2008 8:50:24 PM PST by WOSG (William F Buckley: A great conservative, may he rest in peace.)
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“Meanwhile, a group of House Democrats met Wednesday to discuss more comprehensive legislation that would mend a persistent shortfall in temporary visas for seasonal workers and grants some protection to undocumented workers already in this country.”

Note the media bias here...

Democrats want Amnesty-by-the-slice.


36 posted on 03/06/2008 8:52:15 PM PST by WOSG (William F Buckley: A great conservative, may he rest in peace.)
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“With a GOP majority we passed the Bush tax cuts. The Democrat majority is set to take away the Bush tax cuts”

Without winning majorities in at least one (probably both) houses of Congress, those tax cuts are history regardless of who sits in the White House.


37 posted on 03/06/2008 8:54:28 PM PST by eclecticEel (oh well, Hunter 2012 anyone?)
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To: WOSG
We can only do that if McCain wins and/or does very well. Best case scenario: McCain manages to have a huge sweep. It bring back enough Republicans in the House to make amnesty a dead letter.

Time for a sanity check. Most incumbent Reps further down on the ticket hold opposite positions from McCain on such issues as immigration, global warming, campaign finance reform, embryonic stem cell research, closing Gitmo, drilliing in Anwar, etc. They will have to run against the maverick standard bearer of the GOP, which will put them more at risk.

Only the Stupid Party [GOP] nominates its maverick to be its nominee for President. If McCain does well, it may very well hurt the rest of the Reps in terms of reelection or being elected.

38 posted on 03/06/2008 9:03:31 PM PST by kabar
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To: Will88
"I’ve been saying McCain has nine months as a powerful senator to act on his new found wisdom. "

McCain has about six months left that he can use to show conservatives he's serious by BUILDING THE DAMN FENCE NOW! He's a 25 year Senator, if he can't (or won't) get this done, he really doesn't want (or deserve) to be President.

39 posted on 03/06/2008 9:21:58 PM PST by matthew fuller (United We Stand- Diversified We Fall)
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To: BGHater

... Latinos are no longer the sleeping giant in American politics – they are fully awake, active and making a difference.

It is the Americans (mostly white) that are in a deep sleep.


40 posted on 03/06/2008 9:23:01 PM PST by Travelgirl
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