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Diabetes May Be Disorder Of Upper Intestine: Surgery May Correct It
Science Daily ^ | 3-6-2008 | New York- Presbyterian Hospital/Weill Cornell Medical Center

Posted on 03/06/2008 2:52:56 PM PST by blam

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To: Apple Blossom; theKid51

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101 posted on 03/06/2008 5:48:39 PM PST by bmwcyle (I am the watchman on the tower sounding the alarm.)
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To: muawiyah
It’s the wheat gluten.

OK. Millet contains NO GLUTEN.
Of course, this means it will not rise like wheat, for breads, but traditional flatbreads can be made.
I would suggest that a millet based flat bread would probably be suitable for many Pizza style dishes.
Objections or Allergic to dairy? Lactose intolerant?
For various reasons, I make pizza without cheese on many occasions. ( Yes, I actually have a sister that has a dairy Allergy. )

102 posted on 03/06/2008 5:53:37 PM PST by Drammach (Freedom - It's not just a job, It's an Adventure)
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To: blam

Well...THAT’S interesting....and I will be the perfect “petrie dish.” Middle aged woman who had a dexa scan last year showing I have the bones of a 28 year old....so, next time I have a dexa....it should be less...according to the study....but, somehow I doubt it. I think exercise has a LOT to do with bone density....and I power walk about 17-20 miles a week. I NEED cod liver oil, as I also have a genetic pre-disposition to small, dense, non bouyant LDL....


103 posted on 03/06/2008 5:54:14 PM PST by goodnesswins (Being Challenged Builds Character; Being Coddled Destroys Character)
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To: Randy Larsen; buffyt
Parsnips... I love 'em.

But some people are allergic, and considering the direction of this thread, they are a carb, and high in starch, which may be what some are trying to avoid.
They are in the same family as carrots though, so may be OK.

104 posted on 03/06/2008 6:00:46 PM PST by Drammach (Freedom - It's not just a job, It's an Adventure)
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To: Bellflower

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105 posted on 03/06/2008 6:04:29 PM PST by Bittersweetmd (God is Great and greatly to be praised.)
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To: buffyt

Have you tried oatmeal? I mean the real cooked kind, not instant. It has some carbs but it has a low glycemic index, which means that is digested very slowly. I have type II and I have found oatmeal to be a big help in keeping my blood sugar down.


106 posted on 03/06/2008 6:41:46 PM PST by Cpl.Nym
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To: spotbust1

ping for later read.


107 posted on 03/06/2008 7:05:58 PM PST by spotbust1 (Procrastinators of the world unite . . . . .tomorrow!!!)
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To: PeaceBeWithYou

Trying to find pasture fed cows, and bug fed chickens/eggs is near impossible anymore unless you live in some nicely gifted agricultural zones, or you raise them yourself. As one of the articles you linked to states, animals fed a PUFA diet aren’t going to produce saturated fats.

I found the articles very interesting despite the fact that most of what I read used the same sources so it was like reading the same articles over and over, but I also noticed that at least one was produced by the ailing coconut oil industry!

Personally, I’ve never been fond of commerciallu produced anemic eggs, and some of the expensive ‘uncaged organic’ (commercially produced) eggs are even worse! I love grasshopper fed orange yolks that stand tall in the pan.

I have refused to submit to the margarine fad because it tastes like rancid oil to me, and once you melt it the water boils off leaving a burned mess in the bottom of the pan, unfit to pour over dog food even! I like BUTTER! And I know how to make my own.]

Pasture beef is sooo much more tender, and flavorful than the fat free, tight muscled mess on the grocer’s shelf today. I made the meat manager at Safeway replace the fat he took off my roast leaving it to be a dry tough mess after cooking, and for not leaving ME the choice of what I want to eat! He didn’t charge me for the fat. But, I would prefer to have access to grassfed beef. I can’t find any, and am not in a position to raise it myself.

Grass fed beef tends to have a ‘gamier’ flavor than it’s corn fed brother. It’s a little closer to Elk in it’s flavor and texture, and has a yellow tallow rather than a hard fat in the fatty places. It’s connective tissue is more flexible so it’s not tough, the meat is lean, but flavorful.

I am diabetic so I found the entire thread an interesting read, as well as having learned something from the outside links.

But, I don’t want to have my bowels removed to resolve the diabetis issue. I just eat what I want...as much truly organic (homegrown) as I can access, and am on the continual hunt for good homegrown eggs (I love eggs to the tune of a couple dozen a week). I do have access now and then to some nice lard which I render myself from pigs who ate the supper left overs, and fresh garden produce. The quality of the lard is so good, that it actually does my skin good in just the handling of it.

Someday, I hope to be in a position to grow my own again. I was healthier and had more energy before i began including all this poly unsaturated garbage into my diet.

Just lay off excess breads (especially store bought)& empty starches like pasta. If I get a hankering for pasta, i make my own and I do use eggs in it. Everything in moderation. I tend to manage quite well as long as I don’t over eat, and remember to take my insulin. Wish I didn’t have to, and would like to reverse it. But fruit and eggs and nuts...GOOD STUFF! Specially with a nice fresh cold glass of whole milk!


108 posted on 03/06/2008 8:27:23 PM PST by PrairieLady2
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To: mountainbunny
The lactose intolerance symptoms are caused by coliform bacteria converting the lactose to acid and gas. The acid brings on cramping and diarrhea. The gas part is pretty obvious. Lactase is formed at the tips of healthy villi. In the presence of lactase, the lactose is broken down before the coliform bacteria can act on it. The tips of the villi are the first thing to get nailed with a gluten exposure. It took me about 6 months before I dared to drink any fresh milk. I was delighted to discover I could do it without a problem. On Valentine's Day I was driving from Pocatello to San Diego with my wife. We stopped at Primm, NV to have dinner. I ordered a filet mignon. I didn't realize that it had been served on a thin piece of bread. It was down the hatch in the first bite. Too late to undo it. My insides have been screwed up since then. I'm back to drinking tea and shunning milk again.

If you can tolerate some carbs, there is a pretty good cheese pizza made by "Amy's" with a gluten free rice crust. My local store has a large shelf of gluten free items. I don't eat much of that stuff because it caters to people who want to stuff baked grains down the hatch. I'm pretty happy without that stuff.

109 posted on 03/06/2008 9:30:41 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: muawiyah
It’s the wheat gluten.

Wheat, barley and rye. All contain the gliaden antigen. Corn has its own gluten that can interfere with insulin in some people.

Beer typically has gluten antigens from the wheat and/or barley, estrogens from the hops and of course the alcohol. My wife handed me the last two ounces of some Killian's Red to go with kielbasa sausage and sauerkraut a couple night's ago. Big mistake. There is no room for mistakes. A few pleasurable moments drinking Killian's was followed by a rather noisy gastric rodeo. :-(

110 posted on 03/06/2008 9:39:40 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Cpl.Nym
Have you tried oatmeal? I mean the real cooked kind, not instant. It has some carbs but it has a low glycemic index, which means that is digested very slowly. I have type II and I have found oatmeal to be a big help in keeping my blood sugar down.

Oats are often cross contaminated with wheat. I'm sure it's fine for folks who aren't gluten intolerant, but it does carry a finite risk for those who are.

111 posted on 03/06/2008 9:43:16 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Southerngl

Its odd,we check glucose levels before meals and bedtimes on all gastric bypass patients.
We have a patient now that before surgery had elevated numbers. When he went home something went wrong and he developed problems that has now kept him in the hospital but his sugar levels are constantly normal. And it ticks me because we are charging him 4 times a day for a service he does’nt need.


112 posted on 03/06/2008 9:49:57 PM PST by linn37 (phlebotomist on duty,its just a little pinch)
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To: blam

In the long run you can’t fool Mother Nature!

People can cure themselves there are plenty of site on the net of how to detox the body and to let it heal its self, than choose edibles highter up on the food chain.

Avoid process foods, certain preservative and Chemical and no antibiotics in food, trans fats or hydrogenated oils, go for frozen vegs that are flash freeze, as much organic meats, dairy, and real whole grains and no HFCS.

Death to Diabetes is just one of many programs to detox and heal.


113 posted on 03/06/2008 10:25:18 PM PST by restornu ( Now the place was called by them Rameumptom, which, being interpreted, is the holy stand. ~ Alma)
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To: Kieri
My father is a 13 year survivor of esophageal cancer. The surgery involved removing part of the esophagus, and the remaining digestive system was lifted up to meet the part of the esophagus that remained. So basically, he has a "straight pipe" where his stomach should be.

For the past 5 or so years, he's also had a diabetic-like fluctuations in his blood sugars. They won't officially call it diabetes, but he has to follow a strict dietary pattern or his numbers go all wacky.

114 posted on 03/06/2008 10:33:51 PM PST by Mygirlsmom ("My advice: Quit supporting the party that is symbolized by an ass." Ted Nugent)
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To: Mrs Zip

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115 posted on 03/06/2008 10:59:57 PM PST by zip (((Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough become truth to 48% of all Americans (NRA)))))
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To: PrairieLady2
This series of articles by Doc Bernstien, sums it all up nicely. Coconut and palm oil are healthy saturated fats with no cholesterol. Both were attacked as bad imported oils by the "edible oils coalition" who push corn, vegtable, and seed oils that have to be boiled(to drive off toxins), bleached, colored, and perfumed(to be consumable) and hydrogenated to make them oils again after all the above.

Long forgotten is their prior uses as paint binders and pesticides, all of which petroleum products did better and cheaper(at the time).

Hence the need to find some other uses for them. Ironically, one of the first such uses was medical for kidney transplant recipients. Unfortunately, while successful at suppressing the immune system so the kidney wasn't rejected, they did the job too well and most, if not all of the early kidney transplant reciepients developed cancer and died. So, they moved on to get them in our food. NUTS!

No thanks, I'll cook my food in and with non-hydrogenated, cold expeller-pressed, organic, coconut oil, and ingest anti-oxidents to counter what happened to the food while not in my control. If enough folks would do the same, perhaps now that oil is $100+/barrel, the highly altered for human consumtion oils could return to their proir uses in paint and pesticides.

116 posted on 03/07/2008 1:05:50 AM PST by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afganistan and Iraq))
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To: linn37

I think it is wrong to charge him for something, but on another note, it is documentation of what I say.

People said for years that the reason my sugar was down was because I couldn’t eat. It’s been five years, I can eat with the best of them now!! But my sugar still seems ok.

I think they stumbled on something with this. I really do.


117 posted on 03/07/2008 3:37:55 AM PST by Southerngl
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To: Myrddin
There are no longer any pure, true rice beers in America. There's a pure corn beer from Peru but I don't know anybody importing it.

Another thing to watch for ~ those steak sauces made by whiskey companies ~ they pump 'em full of stuff derived from MALT BARLEY.

Oh, yes, explosive stuff!

118 posted on 03/07/2008 4:22:31 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Drammach

Parsnips are so high in sugar that no diabetic should ever eat them.


119 posted on 03/07/2008 4:24:37 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: PrairieLady2
Pasta is hardly "empty" ~ it's nearly pure carbohydrate. When you eat pasta it's turned into sugar virtually instantly by your digestive system.

Then the surplus is stashed away in fat cells.

There's no real difference between starches and sugars from any source ~

120 posted on 03/07/2008 4:28:21 AM PST by muawiyah
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