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Let me be very clear. This is your website, you set the rules, and I never questioned your right to take the course you did.

But I, like many others still here, miss the contact, and the comments of many good friends we'd made over the years, and I know (from my contacts with them) they they also have missed FR.

So, is there a way that we can start anew?

1 posted on 03/05/2008 1:11:47 PM PST by ken5050
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Wait a minute! I’m a Rudy supporter and I nev.......... (silence)


161 posted on 03/05/2008 4:21:01 PM PST by windsorknot
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hahahaha....

I thought they started GOPRhino or some site like that.


174 posted on 03/05/2008 4:33:05 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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We already have enough pro- McCain liberal apologists. You really want those RINOs back? Why?


177 posted on 03/05/2008 4:34:25 PM PST by ovrtaxt (Member of the irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.)
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I signed up the night those people were banned. They weren’t banned because they supported Rudy Giuliani - plenty of people survived the bannings. They were banned because they were saying ugly things about Ronald Reagan, because they were saying abortion wasn’t an important issue, because they were accusing people who thought Giuliani was a poor choice of wanting Democrats to win.

I think time has proven just the opposite - that support for Rudy was a road to nowhere. A losing proposition, and that these people were supporting him just for the sheer joy of supporting a liberal while still pretending to be Republican(ish).

The banning, at the time, showed me that FreeRepublic was going to clamp down on the liberals in our midst. Make a real stand for conservative values. This is not a Republican site, it’s a conservative site. I applauded those bannings. Even McCain is far, far, far to the right of Rudy Giuliani. Supporting Rudy was unacceptable for anyone with any pretense of conservatism.

I always planned to leave FreeRepublic once Giuliani was flushed, but the threat of the Obama campaign is what motivates me now. And I see no reason why Rudy supporters wouldn’t flock to the Obama camp. After all - their motivation was that only Rudy could beat Hillary. But can’t Obama also beat Hillary? If they don’t mind abortion, and don’t mind loose morals, and don’t mind liberal social policies, why wouldn’t they support Obama instead of McCain just as they supported Rudy over him?


197 posted on 03/05/2008 4:56:49 PM PST by COgamer
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I don’t want McCain. I can’t believe the worst guy after Ron Paul is the nominee.


209 posted on 03/05/2008 5:21:19 PM PST by floriduh voter (FL Gov. Crist "This is America. I can wear whatever I want. I believe in freedom." You go, girl.)
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First let me say I was banned once and am very greatful that I was allowed to return. I would also like to say that I hope at least a few of the banned never return. I have enjoyed their absence, and the relative peace. I do not vote for blanket amnesty- if it is in order at least make it case by case.


213 posted on 03/05/2008 5:23:56 PM PST by Tammy8 (Please Support and pray for our Troops, as they serve us every day.)
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Ken,

I hold some views against the main tenets, but I still must humbly, respectfully, observe that those former FReepers were not booted for the views they held. They are not here now because of the discordant way they expressed their opinion.

220 posted on 03/05/2008 5:29:15 PM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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Well.... we could get blasted by a Romney suppoter....

another open minded group.....

234 posted on 03/05/2008 5:45:19 PM PST by pointsal
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I have no problem if they want to come back. Not sure why they would though, after all, they’re liberals—so what’s the point? Why would liberals want to hang out on a conservative forum. Makes no sense. If they’ve repented of their evil ways then let’s welcome back into the fold.


236 posted on 03/05/2008 5:47:08 PM PST by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense? Don't you wish everybody did?)
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They are gone to somewhere in the blogosphere. Learn to make new friends. Life is short.


251 posted on 03/05/2008 5:53:17 PM PST by afnamvet (Support The Troops. Your life may depend on it.)
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Yeah, I say let’s ban the clueless Limbomaniac sheep who voted for the Beast yesterday.


281 posted on 03/05/2008 6:24:30 PM PST by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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I’m joining this thread late and haven’t read the whole thing yet but right off, many if not most of those “banned freepers” were already reinstated long ago even if they didn’t know it. Howlin, for example, was reinstated months ago.


290 posted on 03/05/2008 6:44:09 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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I think they should be readmitted so long as they post an apology for openly supporting Rudy and an explanation of what they've done to rehabilitate themselves.

I've always been against banning posters just because they're Rudy lovers. So long as they kept their views to themselves and didn't support him publicly, I had no quarrel with them. It's sort of like homosexuals in the military, Don't Ask, Don't Tell.

305 posted on 03/05/2008 7:25:43 PM PST by tear gas (Because of the 22nd Amendment, we are losing President. Bush. Can we afford to lose him now?)
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Nonsense. There are/were plenty of vocal Rudy supporters around here who didn’t get banned, so obviously other factors were involved.


313 posted on 03/05/2008 7:49:02 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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The issue here is simple: who is and who is not a conservative? Thus far most of the posters assume their beliefs and their beliefs only constitute conservatism.

Russell Kirk dealt with this issue on his lecture on the 10 characteristics of a conservative. You can find this on FR HERE.

Kirk's The Conservative Mind: From Burke to Elliot began, as much as anything else, the modern conservative movement.

For example, Kirk believed you were a conservative if you believed you were a conservative. Conservatism was self-defined. Being a conservative did not imply a fixed ideology. And so on.

IMHO it is a needless effort to try to ban everyone who disagrees with your version of conservatism. Any successful endeavor tries to expand its base rather than restrict it.

Hunter, Thompson, Giuliani, Romney and Paul failed to convince the voters they were the one. Like it or not McCain was selected. Whimpering, whining and excuse making will not change that. You either play on the team or not.

You cannot ban the truth. It always outs falsehood. It may take time, but eventually the truth prevails. While we decry "political correctness," we often slip into the same error with "conservative correctness." If we do so, we confess that our own uncertainty of convictions requires a banning of those who differ.

315 posted on 03/05/2008 7:53:29 PM PST by shrinkermd
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Ken, I'm just a peon here, but I understood that those who were banned weren't banned because they supported Rudy but how they supported Rudy (ie, did they violate TOS for abusive comments?)
316 posted on 03/05/2008 7:55:00 PM PST by mnehring
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Great thread.

Glad someone finally had the gnads to do so.

I think some have to pull the pickle put of their butt and reliaze that all conservatived are good folk.

Kudos to you.


344 posted on 03/05/2008 9:26:30 PM PST by Shyla
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Great thread.

Glad someone finally had the gnads to do so.

I think some have to pull the pickle put of their butt and reliaze that all conservatived are good folk.

Kudos to you.


345 posted on 03/05/2008 9:26:30 PM PST by Shyla
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Doesn’t bother me...as long as nopardons or howlin stays away.


348 posted on 03/05/2008 9:54:20 PM PST by chasio649 (sick of it all)
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IMHO it would be okay for the most part, except for some in that group who tried to takeover the fr to some degree in the name of science.

Funny thing is, here or over at their antifreepr site, they still dont do much science.

351 posted on 03/05/2008 11:26:06 PM PST by valkyry1
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