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Nature, Not Human Activity, Rules the Climate
Nongovernmental International Panel on Climate Change / The Heartland Insstitute ^ | S. Fred Singer, Ph.D.

Posted on 03/04/2008 1:56:11 PM PST by Delacon

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Well I wasn't going to post the entire 50 page report. I recommend everyone download the pdf and read it because I guarantee almost no reporters are going to and the few who do, won't report on it fairly.
1 posted on 03/04/2008 1:56:12 PM PST by Delacon
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To: Delacon; xcamel

junk science ping...


2 posted on 03/04/2008 2:02:32 PM PST by CIDKauf (No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.)
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To: xcamel

Ping


3 posted on 03/04/2008 2:05:01 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Delacon

On the other side are global warming fearmongers, including UK science advisor Sir David King and his predecessor Robert May (now Lord May), and of course Al Gore, former vice president of the U.S.

Fearmongers!! OMG!

In spite of increasing pressures to join Kyoto and adopt emission limits on carbon dioxide, President George W. Bush in the United States has resisted – so far.
(lip service only , W!!)


4 posted on 03/04/2008 2:06:22 PM PST by griswold3 (Al queda is guilty of hirabah (war against society) Penalty is death.)
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To: Delacon

We have time to scan the executive summary. Does the Doctor claim the whole 50 pages are executive summary? I would fire him if he did.


5 posted on 03/04/2008 2:09:25 PM PST by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: EarthBound

pass it on


6 posted on 03/04/2008 2:09:46 PM PST by MacDorcha (Arm yourself!)
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Report #1 from the Global Warming Conference in New York City
Heartland Institute ^ | March 3, 2008 | Joseph Bast
Posted on 03/04/2008 4:19:39 PM EST by Delacon
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1980370/posts

Report #2 from the Global Warming Conference in New York City
The Heartland Institute ^ | March 3, 2008 | Joseph L. Bast
Posted on 03/04/2008 4:39:17 PM EST by Delacon
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1980381/posts


7 posted on 03/04/2008 2:11:03 PM PST by Matchett-PI ("I drive a Hybrid. It burns both gas AND rubber." ~ knews_hound)
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To: Delacon

Who needs to read 50 pages? We have CONSENSUS! Now, shut up and go away before we yank your funding.


8 posted on 03/04/2008 2:11:27 PM PST by Hoffer Rand
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To: Delacon

“Climate realism” A term I could get used to...


9 posted on 03/04/2008 2:12:33 PM PST by Hoffer Rand
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To: Delacon

According to Al Gore, there is no more debate, so why bother?


10 posted on 03/04/2008 2:16:33 PM PST by Retired Greyhound
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To: Delacon

Each of us should send the pdf link to everyone on our email lists and tell them not to forget to share. :) Thats what I’m doing. Thanks for posting it. bttt


11 posted on 03/04/2008 2:17:27 PM PST by Matchett-PI ("I drive a Hybrid. It burns both gas AND rubber." ~ knews_hound)
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“Our imperfect understanding of
the causes and consequences of climate change
means the science is far from settled. This, in
turn, means proposed efforts to mitigate climate
change by reducing GH gas emissions are
premature and misguided.”

First sentence is dead-on. Second sentence is extraordinarily illogical. Whenever an understanding of a potential causal link is uncertain, any action to mitigate the potential effects is misguided? A child eats cashews and almost dies. The doctor says, the cashews might have had nothing to do with the outbreak. Does the parent say great, no precautions necessary? Frankly, with that kind of logic, its hard to read on. But I did. There are some really good points. The text is one-sided as you would expect given the financial backing of the foundation. It is a good counter-argument to much of the “consensus view.” It’s sort of like Al Gore. A little too much advocacy and hyperbole; no attempt to reconcile a lot of possibilities which we do not yet fully comprehend.


12 posted on 03/04/2008 3:09:28 PM PST by melstew
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To: Delacon

This should be obvious. Unfortunately, millions of people get their science information from the media.


13 posted on 03/04/2008 3:09:35 PM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: griswold3
In spite of increasing pressures to join Kyoto and adopt emission limits on carbon dioxide, President George W. Bush in the United States has resisted – so far. (lip service only , W!!)

Unfortunately, all three remaining candidates are global warming whackos.

14 posted on 03/04/2008 3:11:16 PM PST by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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Does the Doctor claim the whole 50 pages are executive summary? I would fire him if he did.

Sure, uh huh. There are review papers on interleukin-2 that are half that long and that's just a single subject.
15 posted on 03/04/2008 3:30:32 PM PST by aruanan
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To: enough_idiocy; rdl6989; TenthAmendmentChampion; Horusra; Normandy; Fiddlstix; Defendingliberty; ...
 


Global Warming Scam News & Views

Christopher Horner Video:
"The Politically Incorrect Guide to Global Warming"

16 posted on 03/04/2008 3:51:57 PM PST by steelyourfaith
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One page, single sided. If I need more info I will give a whistle. Busy execs need to know if it is change or hope one or the other or some combination.


17 posted on 03/04/2008 4:04:17 PM PST by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: Delacon

Latest Weather Channel Headline: 03-04-08
GORE’S GLOBAL FLATULENCE HAS PRODUCED A PDF LINK!


18 posted on 03/04/2008 5:00:17 PM PST by rusureitflies? (OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD! There, I said it. Prove me wrong.)
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To: Always Right
"all three remaining candidates are global warming whackos"

But I thought they were in favor of change.

19 posted on 03/04/2008 5:54:23 PM PST by Paladin2 (Huma for co-president!)
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To: melstew
“First sentence is dead-on. Second sentence is extraordinarily illogical. Whenever an understanding of a potential causal link is uncertain, any action to mitigate the potential effects is misguided? A child eats cashews and almost dies. The doctor says, the cashews might have had nothing to do with the outbreak. Does the parent say great, no precautions necessary?”

I don’t think that is a fair analogy. A better analogy is you take what you think is your perfectly healthy child in for a routine checkup and the doctor says that your child is in danger of dying in 20 years if he doesn’t get a medical procedure done NOW and the procedure will bankrupt you. Wouldn’t you want a second opinion? Wouldn’t you ask for further testing? Whenever an understanding of a potential causal link is uncertain, any action to mitigate the potential effects is misguided? Hell yes when the action to mitigate actually may do more harm than good.

“The text is one-sided as you would expect given the financial backing of the foundation. It is a good counter-argument to much of the “consensus view.”

From the outset they proclaimed that they were meeting to give an alternative pov to believers in man made global warming and to show that there is no consensus. Nothing shadowy or underhanded there. Your jab at their financial backing is fine as far as it goes. Somebody tell me why nobody in the media attacks the IPCC that practically started the global warming scare whose backing is the UN.

“It’s sort of like Al Gore. A little too much advocacy and hyperbole; no attempt to reconcile a lot of possibilities which we do not yet fully comprehend.”

After a decade of Al Gore and global warming alarmists attacking anyone that disagrees with them I think they have earned a right to a little advocacy and hyperbole as you call it. In fact, the debate has been so one sided for so long, the debate needs a LOT of hyperbole and advocacy if we are going to get anywhere near to balanced and evenhanded debate over climate change. Any timidity would simply be shouted down.

20 posted on 03/04/2008 6:18:13 PM PST by Delacon (“The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.” H. L. Mencken)
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