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Karl Rove & the youth vote
Tribune-Review ^ | Salena Zito

Posted on 03/04/2008 9:52:28 AM PST by Salena Zito

Rove a big draw with youth By Salena Zito TRIBUNE-REVIEW Monday, March 3, 2008

Karl Rove suspects some members of the sold-out crowd coming to see him tonight at the University of Pittsburgh might only be interested in seeing if he has horns and a tail. "I always get the occasional lunatic ranting and raving, but most people want to hear what I have to say and want to ask questions," the former deputy chief of staff and senior adviser to President George W. Bush said Sunday. "That is when we get engaged in a dialogue about things they want to know about, like the war, terrorist surveillance, tax cuts and the future of our economy."

Students quickly snapped up the 500 available tickets to Rove's appearance, part of professor Gordon Mitchell's course on Cold War rhetoric. Some of the hype is because of Rove's "larger than life" reputation as the mastermind behind the Bush presidency, Mitchell said.

The sold-out crowd shows a level of excitement among younger voters this election year that is most visible at rallies for Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, but which crosses party lines, political organizers said.

(Excerpt) Read more at pittsburghlive.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio; US: Rhode Island; US: Texas; US: Vermont; War on Terror
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1 posted on 03/04/2008 9:52:29 AM PST by Salena Zito
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To: Salena Zito
"I always get the occasional lunatic ranting and raving, ..."

Mr Rove, that ranting and raving by lunatics is what is considered the normal and stable Democratic voter base.

2 posted on 03/04/2008 9:58:12 AM PST by avacado
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To: Salena Zito

As always, the media hails the “youth vote” even though they never show up in November.


3 posted on 03/04/2008 9:58:47 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: Salena Zito

“I always get the occasional lunatic ranting and raving, ...”

Besides bringing lawsuits and crying for the abolishment of the electoral college, that’s what Dems do when they lose elections fair and square.


4 posted on 03/04/2008 10:09:16 AM PST by Slapshot68
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To: Salena Zito
Magnificent bustard bump!


Kori bustard

5 posted on 03/04/2008 10:16:41 AM PST by Albion Wilde ("I have some news. Al-Qaida is in Iraq. It's called 'al-Qaida in Iraq.' " —John McCain)
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To: Erik Latranyi
even though they never show up in November

They're showing up in droves in the primaries. You think it'll be any different if 'bamalamadingdong is their savior, err nominee?

6 posted on 03/04/2008 10:21:37 AM PST by green iguana
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To: Albion Wilde

Is that the type of bustard that only eats custard with sauce made of mustard?


7 posted on 03/04/2008 10:56:18 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (Fred Thompson appears human-sized because he is actually standing a million miles away.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Yeah and then it’s feathers lose their luster.


8 posted on 03/04/2008 10:59:28 AM PST by windcliff
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To: Salena Zito

Everyone assumes that the youth vote will go to Obama but, there’s a lot more sensible young people (18-29)out there than we’re giving credit.

I’d say Obama would get 60/40 advantage over McCain in this age group. Between McCain and Hillary; McCain 60/40 advantage.

Somebody weigh in on this please.


9 posted on 03/04/2008 11:06:44 AM PST by no dems (Political Correctness is Fascism.)
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To: Salena Zito; All

My 18 year-old son voted in his very first election today . . . He and 10 of his friends (girls and guys) went to the polls together and ALL voted Republican . . . Of their classmates who supported Obama or Hillary, only two actually planned to vote (and who knows if they actually will)!

This seems to comport with the typical behavior of my university students (personal vs normative data). The ones who are willing to admit that they plan to vote Republican tend to do so 90% of the time; conversely, those who ‘plan’ to vote Democrat only do so 20-30% of the time!


10 posted on 03/04/2008 11:26:21 AM PST by DrDeb
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To: AuH2ORepublican; windcliff
Is that the type of bustard that only eats custard with sauce made of mustard?

Yeah and then it’s feathers lose their luster.


But it never gets flustered....

11 posted on 03/04/2008 11:35:09 AM PST by Albion Wilde ("I have some news. Al-Qaida is in Iraq. It's called 'al-Qaida in Iraq.' " —John McCain)
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To: DrDeb
This seems to comport with the typical behavior of my university students (personal vs normative data). The ones who are willing to admit that they plan to vote Republican tend to do so 90% of the time; conversely, those who ‘plan’ to vote Democrat only do so 20-30% of the time!

I volunteer for the County Board of Elections to take absentee ballots to nursing homes. We let four people into the conference room at one time so they are sitting apart, and let them fill out their ballots. We election officials silently know a person's party affiliation by their Voter Registration cards. It's always the Democrats who loudly announce who they're voting for, while the Republicans remain silent.

12 posted on 03/04/2008 11:40:16 AM PST by Albion Wilde ("I have some news. Al-Qaida is in Iraq. It's called 'al-Qaida in Iraq.' " —John McCain)
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To: no dems

—I’d say Obama would get 60/40 advantage over McCain in this age group. Between McCain and Hillary; McCain 60/40 advantage.

Somebody weigh in on this please.—

I disagree. Because McLame is such an avid support of the Iraq War, he is, as young people would say, a “buzzkill” for that age group. Young people are also influenced by charm; not the first thing that comes to mind with the likely GOP candidate.


13 posted on 03/04/2008 12:12:35 PM PST by paleorite
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To: Salena Zito
Karl Rove suspects some members of the sold-out crowd coming to see him tonight at the University of Pittsburgh might only be interested in seeing if he has horns and a tail.

That seems a more plausible explanation for the rush for tickets. Other than Jorge Bush, there's no one else who still thinks he's a political genius.

14 posted on 03/04/2008 12:18:08 PM PST by E. Cartman (Huckaboob will never be Vice President.)
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To: Salena Zito
Burn says the local Democratic party has benefitted from the excitement about Obama, who, according to RealClearPolitics.com, leads New York Sen. Hillary Clinton in pledged delegates 1,193 to 1,038 heading into Tuesday's primaries in Texas, Ohio, Vermont and Rhode Island.

Obama asked a campaign lawyer if he could join the Republican Party now that he has 1,193 delegates which is two more than necessary to become the Republican nominee. /humor off

15 posted on 03/04/2008 12:46:50 PM PST by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: no dems

this is the same as rock the vote, vote or die...etc, etc.

The group voting today will have to wait eight long months to vote again. How many American Idols can be crowned in eight long months?

No offense meant to any of the younger generation here, but the average attention span of today’s youth is that of a gnat.

McCain beats either of them in November.


16 posted on 03/04/2008 1:07:18 PM PST by wpa_mikeb
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To: Albion Wilde; windcliff

BTW, I can’t take credit for the bustard/custard/mustard thing: I borrowed it from Dr. Seuss’s “If I Ran the Zoo” (which, in addition to the blustard, also mentioned a bird called the flustard that only ate mustard with sauce made of custard). Didn’t mean to “pull an Obama” there.


17 posted on 03/04/2008 1:19:28 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (Fred Thompson appears human-sized because he is actually standing a million miles away.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

LOL


18 posted on 03/04/2008 1:23:30 PM PST by windcliff
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To: paleorite

that is totally uncalled for.

If the administrators here allow your post to remain, it’s a bad thing for everyone.


20 posted on 03/04/2008 1:51:56 PM PST by wpa_mikeb
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