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Obama: Sermon on the Mount supports gay civil unions (Obama derides the Bible)
Baptist Press ^

Posted on 03/03/2008 10:21:18 PM PST by No Dems 2004

NELSONVILLE, Ohio (BP)--Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama defended his belief in same-sex civil unions March 2 by referencing Jesus' Sermon on the Mount and then implicitly criticizing those who view Romans as a binding teaching on homosexuality.

Obama made the comments during a question-and-answer session with voters in Nelsonville, Ohio. A local pastor asked Obama how he plans to win the votes of evangelical voters when they disagree with him on moral issues.

"I believe in civil unions that allow a same-sex couple to visit each other in a hospital or transfer property to each other," he said, referring to unions that grant all the legal benefits of marriage, minus the name. "I don't think it should be called marriage, but I think that it is a legal right that they should have that is recognized by the state. If people find that controversial, then I would just refer them to the Sermon on the Mount, which I think is, in my mind, for my faith, more central than an obscure passage in Romans. That's my view. But we can have a respectful disagreement on that."

The Sermon on the Mount is found in Matthew 5-7, the passage in Romans is found in chapter 1, verses 26-32.

But Obama's quote may open him up to further criticism from evangelicals, because it's a common evangelical belief that all of Scripture is inspired by God and equally authoritative -- that is, the words of Jesus in Matthew are just as inspired as the words of Paul in Romans. Although it is often argued by homosexual activists that Jesus said nothing about same-sex relationships, He in fact defined marriage as between one man and one woman in such passages as Mark 10:6-9.

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Any true Christian doesn't deride the Bible by saying this: ". . . If people find that controversial, then I would just refer them to the Sermon on the Mount, which I think is, in my mind, for my faith, more central than an obscure passage in Romans."

Um, Mr. Obama, maybe you've not read the Bible much but there's nothing 'obscure' about the passage in Romans and it's repeated elsewhere in the Bible, both New Testament and Old. In fact, the author of this 'obscure' passage in Romans, the Apostle Paul, was the author of much of the New Testament. Mr. Obama, you don't deserve the presidency. You're a fake.

1 posted on 03/03/2008 10:21:20 PM PST by No Dems 2004
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To: No Dems 2004
Related:

CNS NEWS.com: "OBAMA: SERMON MOUNT JUSTIFIES SAME-SEX UNIONS" by Terrence P. Jeffrey (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) told a crowd at Hocking College in Nelsonville, Ohio, Sunday that he believes the Sermon on the Mount justifies his support for legal recognition of same-sex unions. He also told the crowd that his position in favor of legalized abortion does not make him "less Christian."") (March 3, 2008)

2 posted on 03/03/2008 10:23:43 PM PST by Cindy
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3 posted on 03/03/2008 10:25:01 PM PST by Cindy
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To: No Dems 2004
Obama is a "Christian" as much as a dog is a cat./sheesh

"Let him who has eyes, see, let him who has ears, hear"!!

4 posted on 03/03/2008 10:26:51 PM PST by PROCON (Dems=You can Fool Some of the People all of the Time--Abraham Lincoln)
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To: No Dems 2004

Wow, I must be reading a different translation because I have read the sermon on the Mount and do not remember it recognizing homosexual unions.


5 posted on 03/03/2008 10:27:13 PM PST by svcw (The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.)
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"I believe in civil unions that allow a same-sex couple to visit each other in a hospital or transfer property to each other," he said, referring to unions that grant all the legal benefits of marriage, minus the name.

Which specific legal benefits of marriage is he referring to...paying extra taxes? And if they want to develop a legal document where you can designate any given individual to have visitation rights in the case of hospitalization I don't see any issues with that...but it doesn't require redefining marriage or even creating some other form of legal coupling...a simple legal document should suffice.

6 posted on 03/03/2008 10:28:28 PM PST by highlander_UW (illegal alien is to an undocumented worker as a drug dealer is to an unlicensed pharmacist)
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To: No Dems 2004

Just another lying, scumbag liberal. An empty suit, a phony, a charlatan.


7 posted on 03/03/2008 10:28:50 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: No Dems 2004

well the good news is that this means he’s not a muslim.


8 posted on 03/03/2008 10:31:05 PM PST by ari-freedom (Obama on the islamic call to prayer: ''one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset'')
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To: svcw

Yup, he’ll have a tough time ‘splainin’ that!


10 posted on 03/03/2008 10:35:25 PM PST by norge
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To: No Dems 2004

No offense to the baptists, but do we have a mainstream source for these comments before I start e-mailing it to friends?


11 posted on 03/03/2008 10:36:05 PM PST by newguy357
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The Sermon on the mount, aka 'the beatitudes'

How can Obama possibly find in these passages from Jesus that He would desire homosexual unions? It is impossible, Obama is a total fraud.

Matt. 5:3. Blessed [are] the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Matt. 5:4 Blessed [are] they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.

Matt. 5:5 Blessed [are] the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

Matt. 5:6 Blessed [are] they who hunger and thirst for righteousness: for they shall be filled.

Matt. 5:7 Blessed [are] the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.

Matt. 5:8 Blessed [are] the pure in heart: for they shall see God.

Matt. 5:9 Blessed [are] the peacemakers: for they shall be called children of God.

Matt. 5:10 Blessed [are] they who are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Matt. 5:11 Blessed are ye, when [men] shall revile you, and persecute [you], and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

Matt. 5:12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great [is] your reward in heaven: for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

12 posted on 03/03/2008 10:36:34 PM PST by houstonman58 ("When the Son of Man returns, will there be any faith left on earth, think ye"?)
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To: F15Eagle

cough...my tagline.... :)


14 posted on 03/03/2008 10:38:52 PM PST by ari-freedom (Obama on the islamic call to prayer: ''one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset'')
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The closest I’ve found is this: http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/03/02/obama_throws_away_the_script.html?hpid=topnews


15 posted on 03/03/2008 10:39:14 PM PST by No Dems 2004 (No Dems in 2008 either)
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an obscure passage in Romans LMAO
17 posted on 03/03/2008 10:40:00 PM PST by zadox
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To: No Dems 2004

My first thought:

The limo - cocaine and a guy..........

Someone said earlier that the guy in the limo failed the polygraph. I haven’t read anything to the contrary.

Anyone have links?


19 posted on 03/03/2008 10:43:47 PM PST by yorkie (No surgeon can perfect God's work)
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To: F15Eagle

>>>O-Bama!! O-Bama!! O-Bama!!
>>O-Bama!! O-Bama!! O-Bama!! O-Bama!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vezr3dW4J5s


20 posted on 03/03/2008 10:48:34 PM PST by Etoo (I regret that I have but one screen name to sacrifice for my country.)
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