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Mormon, Catholic doctrines can collide (No coffee, tea in polling place?)
East Valley Tribune ^ | March 1, 2008 | Lawn Griffiths

Posted on 03/03/2008 11:08:00 AM PST by greyfoxx39

Religious and cultural traditions collide in odd ways.

• Is it right to tell election poll workers, assigned to Mormon church meeting houses, to not bring coffee, sodas or anything else caffeinated to refresh themselves during their long day tending to voters?

-SNIP-

First, let’s look at the polling place duties and sipping Maxwell House in the meeting house.

Longtime Tempe poll worker Mary Ann Hemmingson has signed up to work the polls for the March 11 election. She’ll spend her 14- or 15-hour day in a church, but no longer one that belongs to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

“I never sign up to work at a Mormon church because the board workers there are not allowed to have any caffeine on the premises,” she said. “That means no coffee in the morning and no Diet Coke in the afternoon. ... You don’t want to see what I look like without my daily dose of caffeine. It’s not a pretty picture.”

“The Word of Wisdom” portion of the Doctrine and Covenants, put forth in 1833 by church founder and prophet Joseph Smith, says that “hot drinks are not for the body or belly.” Add to that what H. Burke Peterson, first counselor in the Presiding Bishopric, said in 1975: “We know that cola drinks contain the drug caffeine. We know caffeine is not wholesome nor prudent for the use of our bodies. It is only sound judgment to conclude that cola drinks and any others that contain caffeine or other harmful ingredients should not be used.”

Advising followers to restrict what they take into their bodies is one thing, but applying that mandate to those people who perform a public job inside their buildings in a one-day stint seems to be taking things too Far.

(Excerpt) Read more at eastvalleytribune.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: catholic; elections; lds; mormon; mormonism
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To: Elsie
You are a jerk!-restornu

Thank you for showing kindness to me.-Elsie

LOL....that didn't take long. Followed right after the "Joker" message ....ROFL. Predictable.
101 posted on 03/03/2008 1:56:53 PM PST by rickomatic
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To: Vigilanteman
You possibly had diligent workers at your polling place. I'm not disputing your account if, indeed, it is an actual account which you witnessed. I wasn't there.

So that's why you called my post "Horse Hockey"?

more serious than asking workers to duck outside in sunny Arizona for a swig of coffee.

Nice straw man attempt.

102 posted on 03/03/2008 1:57:41 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (TEFLON......IT'S NOT JUST FOR COOKWARE ANYMORE.)
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To: greyfoxx39
Dear greyfoxx39,

If one is available, and it works logistically, sure, why not.

My own church is used as a polling place because there ins’t a nearby alternative that isn’t also in use.


sitetest

103 posted on 03/03/2008 1:59:52 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: rickomatic; Elsie
LOL....that didn't take long....Predictable.

Some people just have that sunny, friendly disposition....

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104 posted on 03/03/2008 2:01:09 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (TEFLON......IT'S NOT JUST FOR COOKWARE ANYMORE.)
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To: greyfoxx39
I'm all for the polling places to be in schools...there certainly wouldn't be any religious control there!

Worked the polls in any schools lately? The walls are plastered with garbage promoting global warming, safe sex or whatever cause the NEA happens to feel is important.

I much prefer a synagogue or church with their far more subtle symbols such as a picture of Jesus, a star of David or a scripture verse. I've poll-watched in both places and the religious institutions are always cleaner, and usually roomier, more comfortable and more friendly, even if it doesn't happen to be my favorite denomination.

105 posted on 03/03/2008 2:01:40 PM PST by Vigilanteman ((Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud))
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To: sitetest
My own church is used as a polling place because there ins’t a nearby alternative that isn’t also in use.

And what kind of dietary restrictions are placed on those that enter the building?

106 posted on 03/03/2008 2:02:16 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (TEFLON......IT'S NOT JUST FOR COOKWARE ANYMORE.)
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To: Vigilanteman
Well, if the school is good enough for the kids to spend the day in, I'm fine with the hour or so it takes to vote in one.

Funny, MY sensitivity to religious control on a polling place doesn't quite measure up to your standards for your preference for "cleaner, and usually roomier, more comfortable and more friendly, place"

Do the catholic churches require the voter or poll worker to perform the "sign of the cross" and genefluct when entering? And would that come under the "more comfortable and more friendly place" definition if they did?

107 posted on 03/03/2008 2:09:37 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (TEFLON......IT'S NOT JUST FOR COOKWARE ANYMORE.)
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To: Elsie; greyfoxx39; MHGinTN; pby; Zakeet; FastCoyote; Tennessee Nana; Godzilla
I think you are allowed to comment in THIS forum ;)

"Your babblings denied."


108 posted on 03/03/2008 2:11:27 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: greyfoxx39
Look. I'm in Pennsylvania. I never have voted at Mormon Church. There aren't many of them here. I don't even believe they require poll workers to leave their coffee thermos in the car.

All I am saying is that even if they do, it is far less of an inconvenience that what I've put up with at polling places here-- running the gauntlet with union and party hacks, sometimes even inside the polling places, supposedly neutral poll workers who don't follow the rules, those who "accidentally" misplace registrations, especially for registered Republicans and on and on.

Common sense tells me that even if you brought a coffee thermos into a polling place in a Mormon Church in New Mexico and did not identify it as such, you would be free to sip out of it as long as you did not flaunt it. Have you ever had any actual experience doing this or putting up with some of the things I've mentioned here, or is it that you just don't like Mormons?

If so, have you ever tried to get your local precinct to find another polling place? What was the result?

109 posted on 03/03/2008 2:23:41 PM PST by Vigilanteman ((Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud))
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To: SkyPilot
"Your babblings denied."

I deny denying the denial of the denied babbles....but they are on sale today only.

110 posted on 03/03/2008 2:33:39 PM PST by Godzilla (Have you laughed at a liberal today?)
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To: Elsie

You talk about kindness from your lips! LOLROTF


111 posted on 03/03/2008 2:36:36 PM PST by restornu ( Now the place was called by them Rameumptom, which, being interpreted, is the holy stand. ~ Alma)
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To: greyfoxx39

Hey!

You posted on this forum LOLROTF


112 posted on 03/03/2008 2:38:08 PM PST by restornu ( Now the place was called by them Rameumptom, which, being interpreted, is the holy stand. ~ Alma)
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To: Vigilanteman
You call my post "Horse Hockey", post #88, you doubt my eyewitness account in post #99, "I'm not disputing your account if, indeed, it is an actual account which you witnessed." and now you attribute motive to me, "or is it that you just don't like Mormons?".

My side of this conversation ends here.

113 posted on 03/03/2008 2:41:03 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (TEFLON......IT'S NOT JUST FOR COOKWARE ANYMORE.)
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To: restornu

Your point is......?


114 posted on 03/03/2008 2:42:14 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (TEFLON......IT'S NOT JUST FOR COOKWARE ANYMORE.)
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To: mngran2

Joseph Smith had a bar and sold booze...


115 posted on 03/03/2008 2:45:25 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: greyfoxx39

Your point is......?

You are a twit!


116 posted on 03/03/2008 2:47:28 PM PST by restornu ( Now the place was called by them Rameumptom, which, being interpreted, is the holy stand. ~ Alma)
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To: restornu

Such erudite remarks! ... FAIR not sending material to you today?


117 posted on 03/03/2008 3:00:26 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Elsie

In the Word of Wisdom, “Joseph Smith says “hot drinks are not for the body or belly.”
_______________________________________________

Joseph Smith didnt know what he was missing...

A good hot cup of tea is a joy,,,

I have a lifetime of tea running in my veins...

:)


118 posted on 03/03/2008 3:06:06 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu; greyfoxx39

119 posted on 03/03/2008 3:15:18 PM PST by Godzilla (Have you laughed at a liberal today?)
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To: SkyPilot

Thanks for the PING

I’ll keep my “babbling” to a sweet roar...

Just the facts, Ma’am..

:)


120 posted on 03/03/2008 3:15:59 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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