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Rapper 'shocked' by daughter's killing
AP (via Yahoo Music) ^ | 03/01/08

Posted on 03/03/2008 8:05:41 AM PST by MotleyGirl70

The rap star Juvenile is "shocked and devastated" by the shooting death of his young daughter, the girl's mother and another child, his manager said Saturday.

The 32-year-old rapper is still trying to cope with the death of 4-year-old Jelani; her mother, 39-year-old Joy Deleston; and the woman's daughter Micaiah, 11, whose bodies were found Thursday night in their home, said manager Aubrey Francis.

"It really shocked him and devastated him to the point where I've never seen him before," Francis said. "Right now he is relaxing and trying to grasp everything of what has happened."

Meanwhile, 17-year-old Anthony Tyrone Terrell Jr. is being held in the DeKalb County jail, charged in the deaths of his mother — a Gwinnett County sheriff's deputy — and siblings at the home near Lawrenceville, outside Atlanta. He was arrested Friday.

Deleston brought a paternity lawsuit in 2004, claiming that Juvenile, whose real name is Terius Gray, was Jelani's father, Gwinnett County court records show. Both parties later agreed Juvenile was the father.

Juvenile, who is in New Orleans, had been making regular child support payments, Francis said.

In 1998, Juvenile released his third album, "400 Degreez," which sold 4 million copies. At one time he was part of the four-man group The Hotboyz, along with Lil Wayne, Young Turk and B.G.

Attorney Randy Kessler, who represented Juvenile in the paternity suit, said Saturday he had not talked with the rapper about the killings.

"Any time you have a situation like that, it's shocking," Kessler said.

Terrell was taken to jail in neighboring DeKalb County to avoid any potential conflict because Deleston worked for Gwinnett County, said Lawrenceville police spokeswoman Illana Spellman. She could not confirm Friday whether Deleston's service weapon was used.

Because of his age, prosecutors cannot seek the death penalty against Terrell. A preliminary hearing will be set next week in Gwinnett County Superior Court, prosecutor Danny Porter said.

Defense attorney Lyle Porter did not return calls Friday and Saturday.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gangsterrap; rapperjuvenile; thuglife
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To: NCC-1701
Juvenile and the Cash Money Crew of which he is a member have a reputation in the hiphop world for being extremely weak lyricists with boring and derivative rhymes.

They do not occupy the position in the hiphop genre that the Beatles and Rolling Stones do in classic rock or that Strait and Jackson do in Nashville country.

61 posted on 03/03/2008 9:28:33 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Minn
You seem to know a fair amount about this trash.

Much like film or television or cuisine or science fiction, it isn't all trash.

Ever think of doing something more productive and less destructive with your time?

What am I destroying, exactly?

62 posted on 03/03/2008 9:31:10 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: MotleyGirl70

The stupidity of these people astonishes me. They spend their live glorifying “gangsta” lifestyles are then “shocked, shocked I tell you!” when someone they know is slaughtered. True Darwinism.


63 posted on 03/03/2008 9:33:34 AM PST by pabianice
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To: AbeKrieger
When the family unit breaks down to this point, it all becomes a Maury/Springer lifestyle and anything goes.

Needs to be repeated again and again and again.

64 posted on 03/03/2008 9:36:00 AM PST by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: wideawake

“I doubt there exists a single hip hop track by a black MC in which the MC expresses a desire to kill his own mother.”

True, but they glorify murder in general. Women are bitches and whores. They never seem to stop to consider that murdered women are often someone else’s mother.

They never seem to consider that bitches and whores are often someone’s mother, either. Often, the mother of the rapper’s own child.


65 posted on 03/03/2008 9:38:14 AM PST by Marie2 (I used to be disgusted. . .now I try to be amused.)
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To: wideawake

“...have a reputation in the hiphop world for being extremely weak lyricists with boring and derivative rhymes....”

Wouldn’t that describe 95% to 99% of all thug rappers?


66 posted on 03/03/2008 9:41:28 AM PST by NCC-1701 (PUT AN END TO ORGANIZED CRIME. ABOLISH THE I.R.S.)
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To: MotleyGirl70

“Slow Motion” and “Back that A— Up” were jams! Damn this sucks. My prayers go out to Juvenile.


67 posted on 03/03/2008 9:42:51 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: UCANSEE2
One would think the reason they latched onto the phrase or acronym is because of the word “MASTER”.

One of the premier funk acts of the 1970s, and one whose records have been endlessly sampled by hiphop producers, is an Ohio outfit with the ironic name of Slave.

GRAND FUNKMASTER (also note that their aliases very closely resemble the titles of KKK members.)

The original hiphop grandmaster - Grandmaster Flash (best tracks: "The Message", "White Lines", "Grandmaster Flash On The Wheels Of Steel") adopted that moniker as a chess reference.

There are a few others who followed with that title, but it fell out of style in the early '80s.

Wonder what it takes to get a “MASTERS DEGREE” in RAP?

Funny you should ask. There are a number of schools that offer advanced coursework in studio production techniques associated with hiphop: mixing from variously format analogue sources, sampling, etc.

A prominent hiphop producer/DJ - professionally known as 9th Wonder (a inside reference to Grandmaster Flash's other nickname: "8th Wonder"), but with the government name of Patrick Douthit - teaches advanced-level coursework in hiphop at NCCU in Durham.

68 posted on 03/03/2008 9:43:00 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: NCC-1701
Wouldn’t that describe 95% to 99% of all thug rappers?

Certain MCs like Biggie Smalls, Method Man, Ghostface Killah, Nas cultivate/d a "thug from the streets" image, but are considered to be inventive and clever lyricists.

The beauty and the bane of hiphop, of course, is that anyone can try his hand at it - with the result that the hiphop market is glutted with substandard product.

69 posted on 03/03/2008 9:47:51 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Marie2
They never seem to consider that bitches and whores are often someone’s mother, either.

Some MCs do consider that - like Common and Kanye West, who tend to eschew and criticize such language, and who are among the best-selling MCs of recent years.

70 posted on 03/03/2008 9:53:26 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Religion Moderator
Why are you deleting my posts?

The links I posted to his rap lyrics are directly related to violence in this story.

71 posted on 03/03/2008 10:05:14 AM PST by MotleyGirl70
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To: MotleyGirl70

Profantiy is not allowed. At all.


72 posted on 03/03/2008 10:09:32 AM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: wideawake

I prefer Grandmaster B. MWC reference.


73 posted on 03/03/2008 10:13:15 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
Heh heh. The sad part is that Faustino actually recorded under the nom du break of Li'l D.
74 posted on 03/03/2008 10:18:22 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake
MCs like the late Notorious B.I.G., the late Tupac Shakur, Ghostface Killah, etc. all have sappy tracks dedictaed to their moms alongside other tracks about killing their business rivals and romantic rivals.

This makes me think of the mafia, for some reason. Imagine if they put their doings to music. While I'm not sure of the prevalence of killing romantic rivals, the criminal mentality is the same regardless of the color.

The mafia has been romanticized in a similar fashion when you really think about it.

76 posted on 03/03/2008 10:48:48 AM PST by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: wideawake

You wrote:

I doubt there exists a single hip hop track by a black MC in which the MC expresses a desire to kill his own mother.

Actually, Ice-T (AKA Tracy Lauren Marrow) currently seen on TV’s Law & Order, had a lovely tune on his album Body Count (Which was famous for the melodious single “Cop Killer”)entitled “Momma’s Gonna Die Tonight”


77 posted on 03/03/2008 10:59:45 AM PST by Mac from Cleveland (All generalities are false--including this one.)
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To: wideawake

Let me correct myself—It’s Momma’s Gotta Die Tonight” not “Gonna” I realized my typo—it’s tough keeping track of those subtle musical nuances.


78 posted on 03/03/2008 11:05:43 AM PST by Mac from Cleveland (All generalities are false--including this one.)
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To: Mac from Cleveland
That's not a hip-hop track, it's a heavy metal track about a protagonist who kills his mother due to her racist objection to his white girlfriend.

It was, not surprisingly, marketed to a white heavy metal audience that was quite familiar with bloody Oedipal themes.

I remember a coworker of mine at the time recommending the album to me because: "You white boys love that crazy metal ****, right? I think Ice-T lost his damn mind."

Not quite Run DMC/Aerosmith, eh?

79 posted on 03/03/2008 11:16:27 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Patriotic1
The mafia has been romanticized in a similar fashion when you really think about it.

Absolutely. Many who reject hiphop as unredeemable garbage eat up shows like The Sopranos - and not just because they appreciate the deftness of the characterizations.

80 posted on 03/03/2008 11:18:20 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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