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Primitive Catholic Church behind times on abortion
The Columbia (Missouri) Daily Tribune ^ | Sunday, March 2, 2008 | John Higdon

Posted on 03/02/2008 1:22:18 PM PST by rface

Don Welter’s letter in the Jan. 28 Tribune contains too many errors to respond to in one letter.

Although fetal tissue being human and alive is neither enlightening nor controversial, the idea such tissue is a person is an issue of Catholic superstition and not biological fact. That women, however, are persons, is a fact with which even the anti-abortionists must agree.

Bernie Nathanson prostituted himself to the Catholic Church. After becoming a toady, he called himself a self-declared liar. Why in the world should we believe him now?

Christopher Tietsie, a biostatistician, said the number of women killed annually by illegal abortion was hard to quantify, but we had hard data on about 300, and he estimated 500 to 1,000 women killed before legalization. Anti-abortionists glibly write off these 17,500 to 35,000 lives to this date and weep crocodile tears for fetal tissue, 93 percent of the time the size of an acorn or smaller (first trimester). The psychopaths who murdered medical clinic personnel all insisted they be called "pro-life."

Most religions in the nation favor a woman’s right to choose, including Methodists, Presbyterians, Jews, Episcopalians, United Church of Christ, American Baptists, Unitarians and many others. Women will not tolerate going back to re-criminalized abortion, after 35 years, to please a primitive church. The five Roman Catholics on the nine-justice U.S. Supreme Court would have to rewrite constitutional law - which would be unprecedented.


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KEYWORDS: abortion; anticatholic; barf; cultureofdeath; imbecility; psychosis; vatican
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John Higdon is the left's version of an Archie Bunker bigot......

I bet he would never write a column titled: Primitive Islam behind the Times on Abortion.

but I must ask....Where does Islam stand in regard to abotion?

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John Higdon, Ph.D., is Associate Professor of Psychiatry at the University of Missouri Medical School at Columbia, where he teaches medical psychology. Dr. Higdon was a featured speaker at the Sacramento convention of American Atheists in 1993, and has published numerous articles in American Atheist on the psychology of religion.

1 posted on 03/02/2008 1:22:19 PM PST by rface
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To: rface

I’m a Proud Primitive!


2 posted on 03/02/2008 1:23:59 PM PST by lmc12
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I would think primitive would be ripping out a fetus and making a meal of it. Kind of like what this jerk does by supporting the abortion industry and making money from that.

You have to be advanced to want to save and protect the fetus.

3 posted on 03/02/2008 1:26:17 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Mike Huckabee: ‘I Majored In Miracles’)
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To: rface

What does God say?

It kills me how those who claim no religion spend so much time hating, instead of enjoying their godless lives.

What could possibly be missing...


4 posted on 03/02/2008 1:26:47 PM PST by AliVeritas (DEUS VULT - 0311)
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To: lmc12

This Primitive Catholics are just as bad as those crazy Southern Baptist.


5 posted on 03/02/2008 1:28:18 PM PST by ThomasThomas ( John McCain a true BLUE conservative)
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To: SevenofNine; NYer; Salvation; narses

ping


6 posted on 03/02/2008 1:32:14 PM PST by monkapotamus
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Well,.. at least in America he can insult Christianity, and the Catholic Church without fear of violence and rioting in the streets, as is would be the case of insults to other religions in other faraway places. < /sarc
7 posted on 03/02/2008 1:33:08 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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Higdon: I have to give in; the fetus is a unique, living human. That’s the science. Ok, but I haven’t decided they are ‘persons’, something I’ll define as coming into being when I think it does based on nothing more than my opinion.

Me: Yeah, it’s Catholic thinking that is supersticious. (sarcasm off)


8 posted on 03/02/2008 1:37:12 PM PST by sobieski
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To: rface; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...
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Freep-mail me to get on or off my pro-life and Catholic List:

Add me / Remove me

Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of interest.

9 posted on 03/02/2008 1:39:29 PM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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Higdon's anti-religion bias is palpable.

This guy is just another atheist bigot who is incensed that the Catholic Church - and most Protestant evangelical churches - dare oppose one of the leftist's bedrock principles: the alleged 'right' to the taking of helpless, innocent human life in the womb, which diminishes life and opens to door to all sorts of mischief, as we well know, 35 years post-Roe.

I'm not a Muslim, but to my knowledge, although there is no direct approval of abortion in Islamic teaching, there is no absolute ban on it, either This leaves the issue theologically cloudy and somewhat 'situational', except that the harming of a fully-formed 'fetus' would likely be condemned by Islamic law.

Perhaps an Islamic scholar could clarify the issue, but again, there are ambiguities in Islamic law regarding abortion. Generally, just like many Americans, I would surmise that most Muslims would be against it, except in 'special' situations, especially if the 'situation' involved themselves - or a close family member.

10 posted on 03/02/2008 1:44:13 PM PST by Jim Scott (Time Heals)
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John Higdon said: “ The five Roman Catholics on the nine-justice U.S. Supreme Court would have to rewrite constitutional law - which would be unprecedented.”

It is evident that this so called PhD has no real education or his IQ is so low that he know nothing.

The Constitution does not say one thing about abortion. It is one of the many powers that were left to the states or the people. But of course the anti-American left-wing fascist like John Higdon say the Constitution says many things that it does not.

The judges of the Supreme Court violated the Constitution when they made the pro abortion law. The Constitution gives the power to make law to the Congress only and not the courts.

But as we all know no one in the Congress or we the people have the guts to impeach those of the courts who violate their powers under the Constitution.

11 posted on 03/02/2008 1:45:25 PM PST by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the US Senate)
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The newspaper published this POS? What a Nazi sack of crap this guy is.


12 posted on 03/02/2008 1:46:10 PM PST by darkangel82 (If you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. (Say no to RINOs))
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How times have changed. Proponents of human sacrifice used to be considered members of primitive religions.


13 posted on 03/02/2008 1:47:39 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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Would it be too cruel to wish out loud that Higdon’s mother was a believer in that sacrament?
14 posted on 03/02/2008 1:52:58 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Who Would Montgomery Brewster Choose?)
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To: monkapotamus

Hey Monk you know what we wouldn’t have Roe vs Wade if some crazy Supreme court didn’t make up laws HELLO


15 posted on 03/02/2008 1:54:44 PM PST by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: Jim Scott

Higdon’s mother should have had an abortion.


16 posted on 03/02/2008 2:00:24 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (Change.....that's what we will have left in our pockets if a Democrat gets elected president!)
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To: rface

Okay, this guy is a dumb-mass. He’s worried about how us pro-lifers are writing off the numbers of women that died having an illegal abortion, but doesn’t understand that we mourn their loss of life as well. Abortion killed the women.

Abortion kills.

I’m prolife because I’m against killing humans. I cannot see how this is difficult to understand. Oh, he’s “highly educated” and teaching others. Wonderful.


17 posted on 03/02/2008 2:02:32 PM PST by Big Giant Head (I should change my tagline to "Big Giant penguin on my Head")
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Wonder if the know-it-all depicted above has the stats on the number of women and teens who have killed themselves post-abortion... understand that there are psychological problems associated with taking your baby’s life.


18 posted on 03/02/2008 2:05:33 PM PST by xtinct (I was the next door neighbor kid's imaginary friend.)
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What are the stats on women who have had abortions who have killed themselves? What about women who have had abortions who have become insane in remorse?


19 posted on 03/02/2008 2:08:20 PM PST by stevem
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Higdon is going to find out exactly what primitive is following his particular judgment.


20 posted on 03/02/2008 2:20:15 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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