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**ACTION ALERT** RE: H.R. 5440 [FISA] - Call Nancy Pelosi NOW !!
govtrack.us ^ | February 2008 | U.S. Senate

Posted on 03/01/2008 3:57:00 AM PST by davidosborne

>>>> ACTION ALERT <<<<<<

TELL REID AND PELOSI TO LET THE HOUSE VOTE !!! FISA is CRITICAL TO OUR NATIONAL SECURITY !!... TELL REID and PELOSI to QUIT PLAYING CHILDISH GAMES WITH THIS LEGISLATION !!! --- TELL THEM TO LET THE HOUSE VOTE !!! --- they are playing games to derail this legislation that is vital to our National Security.. and WE NEED TO LET THEM KNOW WE ARE OUTRAGED !!!!

PLEASE CALL...Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi

District Office - 450 Golden Gate Ave. - 14th Floor -
San Francisco, CA 94102 - (415) 556-4862
Washington, D.C. Office - 235 Cannon HOB - Washington, DC 20515 - (202) 225-4965

AND... Please call U.S. Senator Harry Reid

Carson City 600 East William Street, #302 Carson City, NV 89701 Phone: 775-882-7343 / Fax: 775-883-1980

Las Vegas Lloyd D. George Building 333 Las Vegas Boulevard South, Suite 8016 Las Vegas, NV 89101 Phone: 702-388-5020 / Fax: 702-388-5030

Reno Bruce R. Thompson Courthouse and Federal Building 400 South Virginia Street, Suite 902 Reno, NV 89501 Phone: 775-686-5750 / Fax: 775-686-5757

Rural Nevada Outreach Contact Matt Tuma Phone: 775-686-5750 / Fax: 775-686-5757

Washington 528 Hart Senate Office Building Washington, DC 20510 Phone: 202-224-3542 / Fax: 202-224-7327 Toll Free for Nevadans: 1-866-SEN-REID (736-7343) -Restricted to calls originating from area codes 775 and 702

Reid Newsroom Sen. Reid’s Nevada Press Office 202-224-9521 (for inquires about Nevada issues or from Nevada media). Senate Democratic Communications Center 202-224-2939

... AFTER YOU CALL THEM... CALL YOUR SENATOR AND CONGRESSMAN and tell them NOT to take up ANY OTHER MATTERS UNTIL THE HOUSE VOTES/PASSES S. 2248.... the fact of the matter is that there IS enough votes to pass S. 2248 but Reid and Pelosi are playing childish games with our National Security and will NOT allow the vote to take place !!!! The American PEOPLE should be OUTRAGED !!!!


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 110th; fisa; s2248; spartansixdelta

1 posted on 03/01/2008 3:57:01 AM PST by davidosborne
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To: All
Be prepared to hear some excuse about wanting to "resolve differences" between the House/Senate version.. Don't buy this garbage because the fact of the matter is.. the House never got a chance to VOTE on the Senate Bill.. there are no differences to resolve unless the House vote fails !!! --- IF Reid/Pelosi allow a vote to take place it WILL PASS !!!
2 posted on 03/01/2008 4:01:08 AM PST by davidosborne (http://DuncanHunter.meetup.com/1 - GrassRoots Organization(s) to elect Duncan Hunter)
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To: davidosborne

3 posted on 03/01/2008 4:05:48 AM PST by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Diogenesis

very appropriate.. THANK YOU !!!! I was just watching Sen. Reid’s speech on the Senate Floor about how they need a “conference” to resolve “differences”...... there are NO DIFFERENCES TO RESOLVE unless and until a House vote fails.. in this case they don’t want a vote to happen because they KNOW it will pass !!!!! we need to be OUTRAGED at this !!!!


4 posted on 03/01/2008 4:14:31 AM PST by davidosborne (http://DuncanHunter.meetup.com/1 - GrassRoots Organization(s) to elect Duncan Hunter)
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To: davidosborne

I changed your headline and link to H.R. 5440 from S. 2248. Please try to be more accurate if you wish your threads to remain in Front Page.


5 posted on 03/01/2008 4:40:57 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator

Admin Moderator,

S.2248 IS THE CORRECT LINK....... it passed the Senate on 12 February 2008 with 68 VOTES !!!... and has never received a vote in the House... I stand by my original post...

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s110-2248

S. 2248: FISA Amendments Act of 2007
An original bill to amend the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978, to modernize and streamline the provisions of that Act, and for other purposes.

Overview Summary Amendments Floor Speeches Other Info

Bill Status
Sponsor: Sen. John Rockefeller [D-WV](no cosponsors)
Cosponsors [as of 2008-02-14]
Cosponsorship information sometimes is out of date. Why?
Bill Text: Summaries (CRS)
Full Text
Status: Introduced Oct 26, 2007
Scheduled for Debate Oct 26, 2007
Amendments (69 proposed) [details]
Passed Senate [details] Feb 12, 2008
Voted on in House -
Signed by President -

This bill has been passed in the Senate. The bill now goes on to be voted on in the House. Keep in mind that debate may be taking place on a companion bill in the House, rather than on this particular bill. [Last Updated: Feb 13, 2008]
Last Action: Feb 12, 2008: See also H.R.3773.
Show All Related Votes
Other Titles: — Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 Amendments Act of 2007

Votes on Passage
Feb 12, 2008: This bill passed in the Senate by roll call vote. The totals were 68 Ayes, 29 Nays, 3 Present/Not Voting.
View Votes (Senate roll no. 20)


6 posted on 03/01/2008 4:51:53 AM PST by davidosborne (http://DuncanHunter.meetup.com/1 - GrassRoots Organization(s) to elect Duncan Hunter)
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To: davidosborne

I just found it odd that you are expecting the rest of us to call Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid regarding a Senate Bill that has passed, instead of the House Bill that is tabled.


7 posted on 03/01/2008 5:01:51 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator

Because that is part of the game that Reid and Pelosi are playing with the FISA legislation.. they are trying to make it “appear” that there is a need for conference..when in fact the House needs to vote on S.2248 FIRST !!! if it fails.. which it will not.. THEN they can argue that there are “differences to resolve”....


8 posted on 03/01/2008 5:04:38 AM PST by davidosborne (http://DuncanHunter.meetup.com/1 - GrassRoots Organization(s) to elect Duncan Hunter)
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To: davidosborne

Got news for ya. Reid does not give a tinkers damn what you want or say. You will be lucky to even get a human on the line. The VM box will be full - I have it one good authority that emails go directly into the bit bucket.


9 posted on 03/01/2008 5:04:53 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (John McCain - The Manchurian Candidate? http://www.usvetdsp.com/manchuan.htm)
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To: davidosborne

Yep...and Hillary wants to answer the “who will protect America” hotline, yet she won’t reel her own people in. She needs to be on TV harping about how Pelosi and crew need to allow a vote to happen on this.

So if you see her in the future doing so, then I will assume someone on her staff read this.


10 posted on 03/01/2008 5:10:13 AM PST by dba.adabas
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To: davidosborne
Unless you know something that I do not, H.R. 5440 is S. 2248.
11 posted on 03/01/2008 5:10:41 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: davidosborne

We already lost critical information so any attack on US soil from these overseas terrorist will leave the Democrat’s with blood on their hands. The media will not escape the wrath of the American people because they are helping the Democrats destroy the program and all because of their hatred for President Bush.


12 posted on 03/01/2008 5:11:43 AM PST by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: Admin Moderator

yes... but when we mass call we need to be clear which Bill we are talking about.... S.2248 got 68 VOTES -— a veto proof majority in the Senate.. THAT is the bill needs a vote..


13 posted on 03/01/2008 5:12:55 AM PST by davidosborne (http://DuncanHunter.meetup.com/1 - GrassRoots Organization(s) to elect Duncan Hunter)
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To: Admin Moderator
Unless you know something that I do not, H.R. 5440 is S. 2248.

It appears that there are some slight differences... my understand is that if they were exactly the same ... they would be cross referenced.... so I don't have an answer to that question... what I do know is this.... S. 2248 passed with a veto proof majority... however Pelosi and Reid are playing games to prvent S. 2248 from getting a vote on the House Floor... that should make us OUTRAGED !!!..

14 posted on 03/01/2008 5:27:22 AM PST by davidosborne (http://DuncanHunter.meetup.com/1 - GrassRoots Organization(s) to elect Duncan Hunter)
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To: davidosborne
Be prepared to hear some excuse about wanting to "resolve differences" between the House/Senate version.. Don't buy this garbage because the fact of the matter is.. the House never got a chance to VOTE on the Senate Bill.. there are no differences to resolve unless the House vote fails !!!

What are you talking about? You're way off base here. S.2248 is the Senate's amendment to H.R. 3773, which was already passed by the House a few months ago. The next step is a conference committee to resolve the differences between the two. That's just SOP. Your hysteria is really unwarranted.

15 posted on 03/01/2008 6:52:07 AM PST by Sandy (Apology demanders suck.)
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To: Sandy
S.2248 as Amended (FISA Amendments Act of 2007 ) ... An original bill to amend the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978, to modernize and streamline the provisions of that Act, and for other purposes. 

Sponsor: Sen Rockefeller, John D., IV [WV] (introduced 10/26/2007)     Cosponsors (None)

Yeas - 68; Nays - 29; Not Voting - 3 

Grouped By Vote Position

YEAs ---68
Alexander (R-TN)
Allard (R-CO)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Bennett (R-UT)
Bond (R-MO)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burr (R-NC)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Coleman (R-MN)
Collins (R-ME)
Conrad (D-ND)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Craig (R-ID)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Dole (R-NC)
Domenici (R-NM)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hagel (R-NE)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Inouye (D-HI)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kohl (D-WI)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lieberman (ID-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Lugar (R-IN)
Martinez (R-FL)
McCain (R-AZ)
McCaskill (D-MO)
McConnell (R-KY)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Pryor (D-AR)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Salazar (D-CO)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Smith (R-OR)
Snowe (R-ME)
Specter (R-PA)
Stevens (R-AK)
Sununu (R-NH)
Thune (R-SD)
Vitter (R-LA)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Warner (R-VA)
Webb (D-VA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wicker (R-MS)
NAYs ---29
Akaka (D-HI)
Biden (D-DE)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Byrd (D-WV)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Cardin (D-MD)
Dodd (D-CT)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Harkin (D-IA)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Murray (D-WA)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schumer (D-NY)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Tester (D-MT)
Wyden (D-OR)
Not Voting - 3
Clinton (D-NY)
Graham (R-SC)
Obama (D-IL)

 [http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=2&vote=00020]

SUMMARY AS OF:
11/16/2007--Reported to Senate amended.   [http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:SN02248:@@@D&summ2=2&]

Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 Amendments Act of 2007 or FISA Amendments Act of 2007 - Title I: Foreign Intelligence Surveillance - (Sec. 101) Amends the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (FISA) to add a new title concerning additional procedures for targeting (acquiring) communications of certain persons outside the United States.

Authorizes the Attorney General (AG) and Director of National Intelligence (DNI) to jointly authorize, for periods up to one year, the targeting (electronic surveillance) of persons located outside the United States in order to acquire foreign intelligence information, under specified limitations, including prohibiting an acquisition intentionally targeting a person reasonably believed to be outside the United States with the significant purpose of acquiring the communications of a specific person reasonably believed to be located in the United States, unless done in accordance with title I of FISA. Requires: (1) certain targeting and minimization procedures to be followed; and (2) Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (Court) review of such procedures. Allows the AG to authorize the emergency employment of an acquisition of foreign intelligence if the AG: (1) determines that an emergency situation exists with respect to the acquisition; (2) informs a Court judge of such determination; (3) submits to the Court, within 72 hours, a request authorizing such acquisition; and (4) follows appropriate minimization procedures. Requires such emergency acquisition to terminate within 72 hours, unless the Court determines that the person outside the United States is a foreign power or agent. Provides transition procedures with respect to the targeting of U.S. persons located overseas.

Requires the AG and DNI, prior to any non-emergency acquisition, to certify to the Court that: (1) the acquisition is targeted at persons believed to be outside the United States and that the targeting and minimization procedures have been or will be approved by the Court; (2) such procedures are consistent with requirements of the fourth amendment to the U.S. Constitution; (3) a significant purpose of the acquisition is to obtain foreign intelligence information; (4) the minimization procedures meet FISA requirements and have been or will be approved by the Court; (5) the acquisition involves obtaining the information with the assistance of an electronic communication service provider; and (6) the acquisition is limited to communications to which at least one party is reasonably believed to be located outside the United States.

Outlines legal procedures with respect to directives issued to communication service providers to provide necessary assistance to accomplish the acquisition, including directive challenges, failure to comply, standards for review, and appeals.

Requires the AG and DNI, at least every six months, to: (1) assess compliance with required targeting and minimization procedures; and (2) submit assessment results to the Court and the congressional intelligence committees. Authorizes inspectors general of the Department of Justice (DOJ) and elements of the intelligence community (IC) to review their agency's compliance with such procedures. Requires the head of any IC element conducting an acquisition of foreign intelligence information to annually review such acquisitions and report review results to the Court. Directs the AG to report semiannually to the intelligence and judiciary committees concerning the implementation of acquisition requirements.

(Sec. 102) States that: (1) FISA shall be the exclusive means for targeting U.S. persons in order to acquire foreign intelligence, whether such persons are inside or outside the United States, except in cases where specific statutory authorization exists to obtain such communications without an order under FISA; and (2) chapters 119 (Wire and Electronic Communications Interception and Interception of Oral Communications) and 121 (Stored Wire and Electronic Communications and Transactional Records Access) of the federal criminal code and FISA shall be the exclusive means by which electronic surveillance and interception of domestic communications may be conducted.

(Sec. 103) Requires the AG to submit semiannually to the intelligence committees copies of any orders of the Court or the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court of Review that include significant construction or interpretation of FISA, including any such orders issued during the five-year period before the enactment of this Act.

(Sec. 104) Revises provisions concerning the application for, and issue of, Court orders, including provisions concerning paperwork requirements and government officials who may authorize FISA actions.

(Sec. 105) Allows the AG to authorize the emergency employment of electronic surveillance under certain circumstances, including: (1) determining that an emergency exists; (2) informing a Court judge of such determination; and (3) applying for a Court order authorizing such surveillance.

(Sec. 107) Provides similar revisions and outlines similar procedures as in sections 104 and 105 above for the emergency employment of a physical search.

(Sec. 108) Requires the AG, after authorizing the installation and use of a pen register or trap and trace device on an emergency basis, to apply to the Court for an authorization order within 168 (current law requires 48) hours after the emergency installation and use.

(Sec. 109) Authorizes the Court to sit en banc when: (1) necessary to secure or maintain uniformity of Court decisions; or (2) the proceeding involves a question of exceptional importance.

(Sec. 110) Directs the inspectors general of DOJ and relevant IC elements to: (1) complete a comprehensive audit of the Terrorist Surveillance Program and any closely related intelligence activities; and (2) report audit results to the intelligence and judiciary committees. Authorizes necessary legal and other personnel to complete such activities.

 

Amendment to remove civil immunity (which failed): [http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:SP03907:]

00015 12-Feb S. 2248 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 3907 Rejected Dodd Amdt. No. 3907; To strike the provisions providing immunity from civil liability to electronic communication service providers for certain assistance provided to the Government.

 2/12/2008: Amendment SA 3907 not agreed to in Senate by Yea-Nay Vote. 31 - 67.

COSPONSORS(11):

 

H.R.3773 [http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:HR03773:]
Title: To amend the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 to establish a procedure for authorizing certain acquisitions of foreign intelligence, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep Conyers, John, Jr. [MI-14] (introduced 10/9/2007)      Cosponsors (7)
Related Bills: H.RES.746H.RES.824S.2248
Latest Major Action: 2/12/2008 Passed/agreed to in Senate. Status: Passed Senate with an amendment by Unanimous Consent.
House Reports: 110-373 Part 1, 110-373 Part 2 

SUMMARY AS OF:  11/15/2007--Passed House amended.  [http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:HR03773:@@@L&summ2=m&]

 

In Senate Bill:

SEC. 702. PROCEDURES FOR ACQUIRING THE COMMUNICATIONS OF CERTAIN PERSONS OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES.

  (h) Directives- `(3) RELEASE FROM LIABILITY- Notwithstanding any other law, no cause of action shall lie in any court against any electronic communication service provider for providing any information, facilities, or assistance in accordance with a directive issued pursuant to paragraph (1).

All the House (Dem - Pelosi, et al) lies here. All Dems say President is creating a crisis by scaring everyone.  As for the immunity issue they cast doubt or is it actually hope (for them). Portions of a news article [http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=/Nation/archive/200802/NAT20080215e.html].

Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.) told Cybercast News Service that it's the unknown aspect of what the telecom companies did that bothers him.  "I have no problem with telecoms being encouraged to cooperate with the government," he said. "The question is, was it legal or was it criminal? That is the pre-condition to dealing with immunity. We can't give retroactive immunity when we don't know what it is we are giving immunity for."  

House Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) told Cybercast News Service the perceived crisis over the expiration is nothing but a "White House publicity stunt." "Legal scholars are uniform in saying legal powers are broad enough, and they will be until next year. The expiration of this act does not in reality threaten the safety of Americans." [Of course Cybercast News identified Harry Reid incorrectly]

No court has struck it down  ... yet. But the Dems are hoping. Why not let lawyers decend to defend the rights of terrorists ... it the Democrat Way.

16 posted on 03/01/2008 8:42:00 AM PST by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: K-oneTexas
No court has struck it down ... yet.

No court has struck *what* down? What are you referring to?

17 posted on 03/01/2008 9:05:42 AM PST by Sandy (Apology demanders suck.)
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To: Sandy

Sandy,

I think you are the misinformed one here... The Senate passed bill has yet to recieve an up or down vote on the House floor.. that is the point.... it is not “hysteria” it is silly games being played by Pelosi and Reid


18 posted on 03/01/2008 1:42:24 PM PST by davidosborne (http://DuncanHunter.meetup.com/1 - GrassRoots Organization(s) to elect Duncan Hunter)
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To: davidosborne
it is not “hysteria”

Right. An "action alert" with multi-colored and multi-sized fonts, randomly interspersed with allcaps and quadruple exclamation marks? Trust me -- that's definitely hysteria.

19 posted on 03/01/2008 5:10:09 PM PST by Sandy (Apology demanders suck.)
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To: Sandy

So you don’t think National Security is big deal... ok


20 posted on 03/01/2008 7:30:01 PM PST by davidosborne (http://DuncanHunter.meetup.com/1 - GrassRoots Organization(s) to elect Duncan Hunter)
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