NYS: You've Been Warned (Voter Fraud)

The New York Sun ^ | February 29, 2008 | PATRICK McILHERAN

[OESY]

...But 2004 included much more, eventually enough to trigger a joint probe by the local prosecutor and the U.S. attorney that turned up a mess of illegal voting but led to few prosecutions. Now, the Milwaukee Police Department's report serves up 67 pages of cases, addresses, numbers, and this conclusion: "The task force believes fraud was committed."...

Police found that campaign workers brought to Wisconsin for the final days voted, though their homes to which they immediately returned were in other states....

Investigators' top recommendation is to ditch same-day registration. It simply doesn't allow time to catch mistakes or fraud....

...Same-day registration is seen fondly by many here, and a bill to undo it is stalled. Mr. Doyle, a Democrat, has three times vetoed bills to strengthen identification rules, even after lawmakers promised free IDs to the poor. His preferred tactic is to denounce worry as partisanship and to pretend nothing's wrong.

Yet something plainly is. Toward the end, the police report's tone deviates from monotone into disgust: "We have been told, ad nauseam, that 'every vote counts,'" investigators write, yet members of an unnamed 527 group and an unspecified major party showed up, understood the rules, and broke them. This was found only by chance. "The aforementioned out-of-state campaign workers know that they have been discovered. And they also know that nothing has happened to them," investigators italicized.

This is an invitation to game the system in a battleground state with laws that make it unlikely such games will be caught or punished. Worse, one half of a divided polity has no apparent interest in changing that or even acknowledging there's a problem.

Out of this corruption may well come your next president's deciding margin. You've been warned.

[litehaus]

Dang Pubbies, and Mormons!......LOL....

[Matchett-PI]

bttt

[neverdem]

thanks, bfl

[gridlock]

Until the Republican Party has an ACORN-type program of it’s own and is able to match the Democrats, fraudulent vote for faudulent vote, the Democrats will never allow anybody to put an end to this.

[razorback-bert]

Plenty sighs warning that a valid ID or voter registration card was required to vote, when i voted today AGAINST HILLARY!

[WL-law]

The Dems stole Wisconsin in both the 2000 and 2004 elections. It wasn’t in either case, enough to tip the election, but how about next time?

And the MSM doesn’t care, so it’s a non-story.

[Greg F]

President controls the FBI. Could shut this sort of crap down if he had the courage and the sense of fairness to take the hit of being accused of intimidating opponents. All it would take is prosecution after prosecution of the cheaters.

[Mygirlsmom]

The Dems stole Wisconsin in both the 2000 and 2004 elections. It wasn’t in either case, enough to tip the election, but how about next time

Had Bush been credited with winning WI in 2000, the whole Florida thing wouldn't have been as huge a deal.

Also, we have had some very close races on state and local levels.

[BerryDingle]

President controls the FBI. Could shut this sort of crap down if he had the courage and the sense of fairness to take the hit of being accused of intimidating opponents. All it would take is prosecution after prosecution of the cheaters.

IIRC, he did do something about it, he fired 7 U.S. attorneys who refused to investigate voter fraud. You saw what happened after that. Don't quote me on this, just seems like thats what I heard.

[A CA Guy]

Since a state that improperly carries out an election and is riddled with fraud can effect a national race outcome, doesn’t that mean there is a Federal case to require all states to...
Purge the records of falsehoods?
Verify who is voting with ID, and so forth?

JUST SAYING...

Seems that when there is a system in a State that can allow fraud, that it is also a Federal issue at least in national elections.

[LouD]

It wasn’t in either case, enough to tip the election, but how about next time?

I disagree. There were over 5000 questionable votes in Milwaukee alone. Racine polling places were a circus, orchestrated by "Americans Coming Together." Kenosha saw busloads of people showing up at the polls from nearby Illinois.

We only lost by less than 12,000 votes in '04, and by 5000 in 2000.

[WL-law]

What I meant to say was that it didn’t change the national result. Yes, the dems did steal the state.

[equaviator]

This business of fraudulent voting...my logic tells me that if your system has been subjected to significant fraud then you also end up with a degree of fraudulent election and therefore, a fraudulent candidate-elect and would-be administration, however unwittingly. Let’s do this: At the end of the day we have this many votes @ “103 percent” of the actual totals. The additional 3 percent represents the standard deviation. Only 100 percent of projected legitimate vote numbers are relevant to the outcome.

[Snerdley]

Update today, it was stalled again. http://www.legis.state.wi.us/insession/insessiondocs/votes/sv0257.htm

Wisconsin Senate Roll Call
2007-2008 SESSION

AJR-17
SUSPEND RULES

AYES - 14

COWLES
DARLING
ELLIS
FITZGERALDS
GROTHMAN

HARSDORF
KANAVAS
KAPANKE
KEDZIE
LASEEA

LAZICH
LEIBHAM
OLSEN
SCHULTZ

NAYS - 18

BRESKE
CARPENTER
COGGS
DECKER
ERPENBACH
HANSEN

JAUCH
KREITLOW
LASSA
LEHMAN
MILLER
PLALE

RISSER
ROBSON
SULLIVAN
TAYLOR
VINEHOUT
WIRCH

NOT VOTING - 1

ROESSLER

SEQUENCE NO. 257
Thursday, March 06, 2008
04:02PM

Contact These Senators About Voter ID!:

Jeff Plale 608-266-7505

Lena Taylor 608-266-5810

Russ Decker 608-266-2502 <=== THIS is the guy running the committee holding it up.

Spencer Coggs 608-266-2500