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Ron Paul vs. Chris Peden [Poll-RP:63, CP:30]
Western Standard ^ | 2-28-2008 | P.M. Jaworski

Posted on 02/28/2008 12:37:54 PM PST by jmc813

While Ron Paul's presidential campaign is sputtering to an unimpressive close, his congressional campaign is beginning to look more and more like a slam dunk.

A recent Public Policy Polling poll shows Ron Paul clobbering Chris Peden in the race for the Texas 14th District at 63 to 30. That may be surprising to some, but it really shouldn't be. Paul has faced a Republican challenger just about every election cycle. A challenger that has received at least implicit support from the national Republican Party. And Paul continues to clean up.

Peden is making a big deal out of the two local papers who have given him the endorsement, and is trying to paint Paul as an anti-family and anti-war radical. Since Paul voted no to a proposed constitutional amendment defining marriage as an institution for one man and one woman, and failed to support a ban on gay marriage, Peden has seen this as an opportunity to claim that Paul--who has been married to the same woman for 51 years, has 18 grandchildren, and one great-grandchild--opposes traditional family values. And as everybody knows, Paul does not support war in Iraq, which Peden sees as an unwillingness on Paul's part to defend the nation against terrorists.

The voters in the district, however, are having none of it. Amongst voters who consider morality and family their central issues, Paul's lead is 65 to 28. Young people, meanwhile, are the largest voting bloc for Paul. Amongst them, Paul leads Peden at a staggering rate of 75 to 11.

In terms of fundraising, Peden has managed to raise in the vicinity of U.S. $150,000. That's impressive. Or, it would be, if it wasn't for something like 5/6ths of that money coming from Chris Peden himself. But 150 grand for a Congressional run is no pittance, regardless of the source. How does Paul compare? He's raised a meager 1.053 million.

While Peden's fundraising is styled after Mitt Romney, his visuals and logo are inspired by McCain.

Here's Peden's logo:

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And here's McCain's:

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Oops, wrong McCain. Here's McCain's:

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Does Peden have a hope? I don't think so. Not when District 14 constituents say things like, "I have an immense amount of respect for Ron Paul. Politics has a way of forcing people to go against their core principles for political gain. That has never been the case with Ron Paul."

Quotes like that are easily had in the disctrict, although this has an interesting source--it was Chris Peden himself who said that about Paul on January 17, 2007. The same guy who, just one year later, thinks Paul needs to be booted out of his seat.

But he won't be. So even though Paul might not become the next President of the United States, he will still be making gold standard, anti-war in Iraq, and pro-gun rights speeches in Congress for a long while still.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: peden; ronpaul; tx2008
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To: jmc813

Great job, thanks for the post.


41 posted on 02/28/2008 2:31:35 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: M203M4

Post #7 ROFL! You should see the debate when Paul completely PW3ND McCain on the economy. The wrong Republican is being nominated, IMO.


42 posted on 02/28/2008 2:34:48 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Greg F
Well, I want Paul in Congress.

Unfortunately, there are others who want to oppose Paul purely out of blind hatred or made-up reasons that he's "pro-terrorist."

I don't see how Peden can be effective in a House that'll see a substantial increase of Democrat Congressmen if he wins, and the Democrats will surely run someone against him in 2010. If Paul loses, then you might as well stick a fork in limited government and whatever Constitutional rights we have remaining.

43 posted on 02/28/2008 2:42:03 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: jmc813

I think he grew up there. I don’t know where he was born.

Victoria is one of those towns where you don’t know why it exists. No offense to Victoria, but what the hell are you here for?


44 posted on 02/28/2008 3:28:10 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: mnehrling
I'm discussing current polling in relation to the Presidential race. It was a sarcastical comment at the online polls where Paul even wins the Pepsi challenge. Heck, Lone Star Times has one now:

Cool!

Got a link? i could use the laugh, and that sounds as if it would be pretty funny.

BTW, did you notice that in those election results that i sent to you, that out of a population of about 652,000 people in Paul's district, only about 158,000 people bothered to vote in the general election?

i hope you find this as distressing as do i. Certainly the third party candidates and write-ins couldn't have gotten ennough votes to skew those numbers.

Even though i don't vote in primaries (i'm a Libertarian, and even when we have primaries, the candidates are picked at the convention, usually after the formal debates...that's how Michael Badnarik was selected in 2k4, even though in primaries, he finished third), but i NEVER fail to vote in the general election, even if i have to write in candidates.

45 posted on 02/28/2008 9:09:19 PM PST by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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To: mnehrling

Have you looked at the details of this “poll”? It’s a “pay to play” automated push poll. Most likely Republican voters would have hung up on it rather than “push 1 for Paul.” Also it is unclear who all they polled. For all we know they called all of Ron Paul’s personal friends in South Brazoria County.

I’ll wait for the real poll on Tuesday.


46 posted on 02/29/2008 8:30:57 AM PST by anymouse
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To: anymouse

The only poll that ever counts is the one at the ballot box.


47 posted on 02/29/2008 8:31:53 AM PST by mnehring ("Ronald Reagan has made Jimmy Carter look like a conservative..."- Ron Paul)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Unfortunately, there are others who want to oppose Paul purely out of blind hatred or made-up reasons that he's "pro-terrorist."

I've seen posts opposing him because 'he wears funny shoes".

48 posted on 02/29/2008 8:34:41 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Ingtar
At one point the polls showed Peden ahead and widening the gap

No, they didn't. Someone was spreading rumors that this was the case, but I knew all along that was unlikely.

Incumbency is a powerful thing. From time to time, an incumbent can be picked off, but it's very tough.

49 posted on 02/29/2008 8:39:18 AM PST by B Knotts (Calvin Coolidge Republican)
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To: B Knotts

Too bad then. It would have been nice to replace Paul with Peden.


50 posted on 02/29/2008 8:46:32 AM PST by Ingtar (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery. - ejonesie22)
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To: jmc813
his congressional campaign is beginning to look more and more like a slam dunk.

Good.
51 posted on 02/29/2008 8:47:42 AM PST by mysterio
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To: Ingtar

No, not so much.


52 posted on 02/29/2008 8:48:46 AM PST by mysterio
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To: anymouse
You may find this interesting. Lone Star Times is analyzing the polling results and the polling firm’s history.

http://lonestartimes.com/2008/02/29/can-chris-peden-beat-ron-paul/

53 posted on 02/29/2008 8:49:59 AM PST by mnehring ("Ronald Reagan has made Jimmy Carter look like a conservative..."- Ron Paul)
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To: mnehrling

This “poll” is a pathetic joke.


54 posted on 02/29/2008 8:53:36 AM PST by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like these, who needs Democrats??)
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To: EternalVigilance
We’ll see on Tuesday. The Paul supporters are right, it is hard to beat an entrenched, establishment incumbent who has been a part of the system for decades. It is an uphill climb for Chris.

I do wonder though, wouldn’t it be in the Paul supporter’s best interest for Paul to lose? After all, if he doesn’t have a Congressional seat to go to, and he is out of the Republican contention, that may trigger him to run third party for President- thus, keeping the REVOlution alive?

55 posted on 02/29/2008 8:56:24 AM PST by mnehring ("Ronald Reagan has made Jimmy Carter look like a conservative..."- Ron Paul)
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To: mnehrling
The Paul supporters are right, it is hard to beat an entrenched, establishment incumbent who has been a part of the system for decades. It is an uphill climb for Chris.

Tell me about it. I spent more time than I'd like to remember trying to primary this b!tch out, to no avail.

56 posted on 02/29/2008 9:07:14 AM PST by jmc813 (Chris Peden is a New England Patriots fan)
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To: EternalVigilance

It’s funny how much many of the Peden supporters mirror the extreme end of the Ron Paul fanatics they hate. “The polls are all wrong! Everyone I know is voting for my guy! We’re going to win on election day! The world will end if he doesn’t!”


57 posted on 02/29/2008 1:53:22 PM PST by ConservativeJen
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To: tacticalogic

....”Unfortunately, there are others who want to oppose Paul purely out of blind hatred or made-up reasons that he’s “pro-terrorist.”
I’ve seen posts opposing him because ‘he wears funny shoes”.”....

Go figure. And I’ve seen posts opposing him because he is a surrender monkey/ cut&run/ “9-11-troofer”/ foreign policy idiot. I am glad you cleared that up for me. “I just hate his shoes. That’s it!”


58 posted on 02/29/2008 9:02:33 PM PST by Mtner77
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To: Mtner77
Go figure. And I’ve seen posts opposing him because he is a surrender monkey/ cut&run/ “9-11-troofer”/ foreign policy idiot. I am glad you cleared that up for me. “I just hate his shoes. That’s it!”

And the vast majority of it consists of emotional knee-jerk reactions. Exactly what we claim the liberals do that results in a lot of bad decisions that come with unintended consequences down the road.

59 posted on 03/01/2008 8:24:16 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: anymouse
I’ll wait for the real poll on Tuesday.

Your Wait is Over.

60 posted on 03/04/2008 8:53:04 PM PST by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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