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Helen Thomas: Time To Get Out Of Our Blood Debt In Iraq (Burden Placed On Next President)
TheBostonChannel.com ^ | 28 Feb 08 | Foreign policy expert, White House press diva and American original HELEN THOMAS!!!

Posted on 02/28/2008 9:48:32 AM PST by seanmerc

The successor to President George W. Bush has a clear-cut choice of saving lives or saving face.

Bush wants to leave to the next president the burden of ending the debacle he started five years ago when he ordered the invasion of Iraq under false pretenses, against a people who had done us no harm.

Bush cannot explain his reasons for the war without compounding his folly. To this moment, Bush has not given a logical explanation for his disastrous militarism.

How can he tell American families that their sons and daughters died for a terrible, tragic mistake committed by his administration?

History shows that other presidents have found ways to end U.S. involvement in wars. Most times there has been a public sigh of relief when that happens.

After 241 Marines and sailors were killed when the U.S. Marine outpost in Beirut was blown up in October 1983, President Ronald Reagan said the U.S. would not change its policy.

By April 1984, Reagan had quietly ordered all American forces out of Lebanon.

There were no public recriminations about cutting and running -- only a sense of relief.

Before then, Dwight D. Eisenhower promised during his 1952 presidential campaign “to go to Korea” and end an unpopular war that had begun in 1950 when North Korea invaded South Korea.

The American people wanted out, so Eisenhower’s message resonated with voters and he won the presidency. The war ended in a stalemate with a divided Korea in 1953 -- and there are still some 27,000 American troops stationed on the peninsula.

Getting out of Vietnam was more difficult.

After years of the low-profile presence of U.S. military advisers there, President Lyndon B. Johnson sent major American combat units to Vietnam in 1965, kicking off a huge U.S. investment in the war.

As the war dragged on, Johnson agonized over how to end the conflict. He fretted over the growing American disillusionment with the war, the protests in the streets and decided not to seek reelection in 1968 when he realized he could no longer justify the casualties.

Richard M. Nixon was elected his successor and announced that his plan to end the U.S. involvement in the war was to turn the war over to the South Vietnamese in 1973. The torturous finale came two years later, when North Vietnamese troops defeated the South Vietnamese military and captured Saigon.

Author Otto J. Lehrack wrote about the presidential dilemma of Vietnam in his 2004 book “The First Battle: Operation Starlite and the Beginning of the Blood Debt in Vietnam.”

Lehrack makes the point that U.S. withdrawal from Vietnam could have been easily accomplished -- without much furor -- before August 1965.

But then came the first major Marine battle against the Viet Cong at Chu Lai. The Americans vanquished the Viet Cong but lost 54 casualties. The U.S. toll quickly escalated in later months and, by the end of 1965, American dead in Vietnam totaled 2,385.

From then on, American presidents found it politically, morally and emotionally difficult to disengage because of what Lehrack calls the “blood debt” that the U.S. leadership incurred as a result of these casualties and the thousands that followed. How could U.S. officials tell the next-of-kin and the American public that their loved ones died in a futile war?

“How could the American president defend the expenditure of more than two thousand American lives with nothing to show for it,” the author writes. America spent another 10 years and more than 56,000 additional lives in pursuit of the Kennedy-Johnson-Nixon policy in Vietnam.

“Like gamblers who have already lost their gambling money, and then the rent month, and then the car payment, and then the grocery money, and then borrowed or stole in the hope of changing their luck, the Johnson and Nixon administrations kept signing markers to America for a debt in gore that they hoped a reversal of fortune would justify.”

In other words, the United States was getting further in “because it would be too embarrassing to America’s interest to get out.” It sounds sadly familiar.

That’s why it’s time now for the Democratic presidential candidates to step up and say we are getting out of Iraq -- pronto.

Let’s face it: That country belongs to the Iraqis.

(Helen Thomas can be reached at hthomas@hearstdc.com)


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: getagriphelen; helenthomas; iraq; liberalmeathead; newsbabe
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1 posted on 02/28/2008 9:48:38 AM PST by seanmerc
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To: seanmerc

She is proof that journalism has absolutely no quality control. Gads, is she dumb. We’re talking public school teacher dumb. Senator dumb. Noam Chomsky dumb.


2 posted on 02/28/2008 9:51:23 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: seanmerc

Oh My God!!!!!! I can’t hit the abuse button fast enough.


3 posted on 02/28/2008 9:53:41 AM PST by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG 49) "Checkmate Cruiser")
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To: seanmerc

There is absolutely no relationship between VietNam and Iraq. How this pathetic woman can even try to make the connection in this piece only serves to emphasize her blind hatred of GWB rather than any rational point.


4 posted on 02/28/2008 9:57:47 AM PST by astounded (The Democrat Party is a Clear and Present Danger to the USA)
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To: seanmerc
I'm not dead yet!


5 posted on 02/28/2008 9:58:55 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (Benedict Arnold was against the Terrorist Surveillance Program)
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To: neodad

She’s a peach, isn’t she?


6 posted on 02/28/2008 9:59:30 AM PST by seanmerc
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To: seanmerc

After reading this article, I am starting to believe that Helen Thomas is the intellectual sister of Ron Paul.


7 posted on 02/28/2008 9:59:30 AM PST by mnehring ("Ronald Reagan has made Jimmy Carter look like a conservative..."- Ron Paul)
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To: Da Coyote

She’s even dumber than that... she makes regular dumb people look like Einstein.


8 posted on 02/28/2008 10:01:01 AM PST by Blind Eye Jones
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To: seanmerc
LOL at all your pics. Here's another annimation:

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9 posted on 02/28/2008 10:01:12 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: seanmerc

Shut up Helen


10 posted on 02/28/2008 10:01:49 AM PST by SueRae
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To: seanmerc

The only relationshipe between vietnam and iraq = they are on planet earth. Thats it. Sorry the LSD you took in the 60’s are flashingback now.


11 posted on 02/28/2008 10:02:30 AM PST by truemiester ((If the U.S. should fail, a veil of darkness will come over the Earth for a thousand years))
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To: VeniVidiVici

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12 posted on 02/28/2008 10:04:04 AM PST by seanmerc
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To: mnehrling

That’s not saying much for Ron Paul, is it?


13 posted on 02/28/2008 10:05:09 AM PST by seanmerc
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To: seanmerc

We need to send Helen as an emisary to al Qaeda. As long as she keeps the burque on...


14 posted on 02/28/2008 10:05:43 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: seanmerc

Axis Sally is due a full pardon if this witch isn’t tried for treason.


15 posted on 02/28/2008 10:07:48 AM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: seanmerc

The Matron of the Dinosaur Press is just wallowing in the quicksand, “Like gamblers who have already lost their gambling money, and then the rent month, and then the car payment, and then the grocery money, and then borrowed or stole in the hope of changing their luck.”

If they keep thrashing, they will sink in the soup they wallow in.


16 posted on 02/28/2008 10:10:34 AM PST by jonrick46
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To: weegee

Axis Sally, convicted traitor (WWII) audio sample

http://www.earthstation1.com/WWIIAudio/Axis_Sally_02c.wav

transcript:

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17 posted on 02/28/2008 10:11:04 AM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: seanmerc

Helen, you ignorant slut!


18 posted on 02/28/2008 10:12:15 AM PST by exit82 (People get the government they deserve. And they are about to get it--in spades.)
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To: Da Coyote
Gads, is she dumb.

All who follow her ideology are.....

19 posted on 02/28/2008 10:16:54 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Silence is not always a Sign of Wisdom, but Babbling is ever a Mark of Folly. - B. Franklin)
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To: seanmerc
Bush wants to leave to the next president the burden of ending the debacle he started five years ago

If they don't want the job don't run for president
20 posted on 02/28/2008 10:25:17 AM PST by uncbob
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