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To: thackney

Just an idea. But the kinetic energy caused by falling water is substanial; although there are many many many ways to store energy that can be drawn on at a later time.


10 posted on 02/28/2008 5:28:50 AM PST by Mikey_1962 (Liberals want equality of outcome not opportunity.)
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To: Mikey_1962
Pump storage is used is some place. It is one of the most economical energy storage methods of significant power (small city sized power).

However, that much power usually looks something like the examples below.

Okinawa Seawater Pumped Storage Power Plant

Tianhuangping pumped storage hydroelectric project

Mt. Elbert Pumped Storage Powerplant

Seneca Pumped Storage Generating Station

24 posted on 02/28/2008 6:57:29 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Mikey_1962
Siting a pumped storage facility can be a real challenge since they are large and flood a considerable area. You'd have intervenors out the wazoo lining up to oppose such things in anywhere other than the most desolate of places, and maybe even those, too.

Not a lot of people know it, but the genesis of the modern so-called "environmentalist movement" can be traced to opposition to a power facility known as Storm King Mountain, in the Hudson River Valley. The "environmentalists" were not the greasy, dirty, pony-tailed hippie types you see today, but actually very wealthy landowners who had land with picturesque views of the Hudson Valley north of NYC. They opposed Storm Kind Mountain on the basis of "visual pollution", that is, transmission lines that would be strung across the valley from the generators to substations for downstate transmission, which would "ruin the view". Now, Storm King Mountain was not to be a coal-fired facility or a nuclear plant, but, tah dah, a pumped storage reservoir.

It is ironic because if you ask anyone today in New York state what Storm King Mountain was, almost all of them, including high-ranking political figures, will say it was a nuclear plant. Little do they realize that the opposition was mounted against that darling of "renewable" energy storage, a pumped storage reservoir. Then again, idiots abound in political circles and the general electorate, and the premise of democracy today seems to be that two idiots are smarter than one genius.

30 posted on 02/28/2008 9:46:24 AM PST by chimera
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