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McCain's Canal Zone Birth Prompts Queries About Whether That Rules Him Out
New York Slimes ^ | February 28, 2008 | Carl Hulse

Posted on 02/27/2008 8:24:39 PM PST by Kaslin

WASHINGTON — The question has nagged at the parents of Americans born outside the continental United States for generations: Dare their children aspire to grow up and become president? In the case of Senator John McCain of Arizona, the issue is becoming more than a matter of parental daydreaming.

Mr. McCain’s likely nomination as the Republican candidate for president and the happenstance of his birth in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936 are reviving a musty debate that has surfaced periodically since the founders first set quill to parchment and declared that only a “natural-born citizen” can hold the nation’s highest office.

Almost since those words were written in 1787 with scant explanation, their precise meaning has been the stuff of confusion, law school review articles, whisper campaigns and civics class debates over whether only those delivered on American soil can be truly natural born. To date, no American to take the presidential oath has had an official birthplace outside the 50 states.

“There are powerful arguments that Senator McCain or anyone else in this position is constitutionally qualified, but there is certainly no precedent,” said Sarah H. Duggin, an associate professor of law at Catholic University who has studied the issue extensively. “It is not a slam-dunk situation.”

Mr. McCain was born on a military installation in the Canal Zone, where his mother and father, a Navy officer, were stationed. His campaign advisers say they are comfortable that Mr. McCain meets the requirement and note that the question was researched for his first presidential bid in 1999 and reviewed again this time around.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008electionbias; canalzone; dnctalkingpoints; foreignborn; howtostealanelection; mccain; whispercampaign
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To: K-oneTexas

don’ know but to even go there is assinine.


21 posted on 02/27/2008 8:35:37 PM PST by cubreporter (I trust Rush. He has done more for this country than any of us will ever fully realize.)
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To: Kaslin

Hillary and Bill are running an unconstitutional third term. Let’s call it a draw.

There is nothing illegal about McCain’s citizenship. Nothing that a new identity couldn’t fix. Let’s give him someone else’s SSN and pretend that he’s just like anyone else who steals an identity. A hardworking American.


22 posted on 02/27/2008 8:36:02 PM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: M203M4

Of course he is. The slimes is just getting desperate


23 posted on 02/27/2008 8:36:31 PM PST by Kaslin (Peace is the aftermath of victory)
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To: Ron in Acreage

This is an attempt by the Times to offset the “foreign” question of Obama...it’s so transparent that I can’t believe they would be this stupid. McCain’s father was MILITARY!!! Are they trying to say that children of military men stationed in Germany or Japan are NOT American-born????

THe timing seems rather suspect...considering Obama’s African garb...why not make it seem like McCain is ineligible...
Not to mention that the Times ENDORSED McCain...
They are totally tanking big time!!!


24 posted on 02/27/2008 8:37:03 PM PST by t2buckeye
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To: Balding_Eagle
Installment #2 of 50.

I thought it was higher than that, but it doesn't matter anyway, when someone is only running for office.

25 posted on 02/27/2008 8:37:37 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Kaslin

I say if you were not “naturalized” through immigration laws, you are a “natural-born” citizen.


26 posted on 02/27/2008 8:37:47 PM PST by MeanGreen2008
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To: Kaslin

OK, so I may end up voting for the dirtbag anyway.

It was a part of the US at the time he was born. He’s legit.


27 posted on 02/27/2008 8:38:53 PM PST by InABunkerUnderSF ("Gun Control" is not about the guns. "Illegal Immigration" is not about the immigration)
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To: Doneit

He was schooled in Indonesia as a yute where he was listed on paperwork as a muslim (his campaign can’t explain it, they just say that the information listed was in “error”) and attended mosque with his father.


28 posted on 02/27/2008 8:38:55 PM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: Vigilanteman

29 posted on 02/27/2008 8:39:03 PM PST by Viking2002 (Rove, you magnificent bastard!)
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To: DB
And Goldwater was born in Arizona when it wasn’t a state!
30 posted on 02/27/2008 8:39:16 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Doneit

No he was born in Honolulu, HI. He did live in Indonesia as a child when his mother moved there with his stepfather


31 posted on 02/27/2008 8:39:58 PM PST by Kaslin (Peace is the aftermath of victory)
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To: Kaslin
N/P...Natural Citizen (Foreign) Born...I know, I'm from Nippon (Japan).
32 posted on 02/27/2008 8:40:00 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (just b/c your paranoid, doesn't mean "they" aren't out to get you...our hopes were dashed by CINOs :)
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To: t2buckeye

This is why Flyover America gets for voting for the Nyet Times’ GOP pick. They didn’t want the GOP guy to win, they wanted to pick OFF the conservative candidates and get them out of the race.


33 posted on 02/27/2008 8:40:43 PM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: Kaslin

The NYT’s last effort, the affair-with-the-lobbyist story, has been credited with putting him over Obama in the national generic polls Rasmussen is running. Right now McCain is probably praying the Times can do a story like this every day between now and November.


34 posted on 02/27/2008 8:40:55 PM PST by Heatseeker (To err is human, but to really screw up it takes the Berkeley City Council)
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To: weegee
He and Juan Hernandez can swap id’s.
35 posted on 02/27/2008 8:40:57 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Jewels1091

Yes he was born on US soil. Hawaii became a state in 1959, and he was born in 1961


36 posted on 02/27/2008 8:41:51 PM PST by Kaslin (Peace is the aftermath of victory)
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To: Jewels1091

Yes he was born on US soil. Hawaii became a state in 1959, and he was born in 1961


37 posted on 02/27/2008 8:41:51 PM PST by Kaslin (Peace is the aftermath of victory)
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To: Balding_Eagle
Wait until installments # 20 and up. They will have it all zeroed in by then, and they are going to be getting chunks out of him.

I hope you are wrong (as do you, I am sure). At the rate they are going, who will believe them? They have made such fools of themselves with #1 and #2, will anyone be paying attention to #20?

I don't know what I can say about the New York Times that hasn't already been said here. They are certainly expanding their reputation for being anything but objective journalists. ("Objective journalist" has become an oxymoron in my lifetime. Such people used to exist.)

38 posted on 02/27/2008 8:43:32 PM PST by Cracker Jack (If it weren't for the democrats, republicans would be the worst thing in Washington.)
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To: cubreporter

This is a non-issue. Why even push it, in the media or elsewhere.


39 posted on 02/27/2008 8:44:03 PM PST by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: Kaslin

What a stupid thing to even bother bringing up. It’s almost as bad as the “Obama’s a muslim sleeper” crap.


40 posted on 02/27/2008 8:44:39 PM PST by Terabitten (Virginia Tech Corps of Cadets - E-Frat '94. Unity and Pride!)
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