Posted on 02/27/2008 8:42:10 AM PST by .cnI redruM
and there’s a lot of other thngs that won’t look the same either if hilllereee won.
If it’s still there.
I wanted to watch that one last night.
The problem with this "constitutional law professor" and his logic is that the 2nd amendment does not include the words "Hunting and recreational target shooting being necessary for a free state..."
A "former" constitutional law professor. And obviously not a very good one.
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“There is an individual right to bear arms, but it is subject to common-sense regulation, just like most of our rights are subject to common-sense regulation.”
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So according to “constitutional law professor” Barak Obama, our RIGHTS are subject to COMMON SENSE regulation???
Only SPECIFICALLY ENUMERATED RIGHTS like freedom of speech, right to keep and bear arms, etc. For the penumbra rights (those not enumerated but invented out of whole cloth under the priveleges and immunities clause of the 14th amendment for example) such as the right to abortion on demand, there is no such thing as a common sense regulation that should apply.
Indeed. The more I read what this man says- the more uneasy and worried I become.
Hey, uh, Perfessor, I might be just a bit ignorant about things, so please enlighten me:
Where the F, exactly, does the 2nd Amendment say anything about such trivial activities as hunting and target shooting?
Being a perfessor and all, you might understand better than me, but this one little fact keeps nagging at me, namely:
Why on Earth would the leaders of the Founding Generation add such a trivial clause to a document that was intended to create a government fit to govern our nation for all of posterity?
I mean, come on, Perfessor, many of these guys who voted for it had, just 15 years before the 2nd Amendment was ratified, started and participated in (at great personal cost and risk) an open insurrection against the most powerful empire the world had seen, an empire considered to have legitimate authority here by most of the population, and had engaged in combat against the most powerful army and navy of the day at a huge cost in blood and treasure. Oh, and a great number of the elected representatives of the people of this nation were terribly afraid of the power of a central government (like England's) being set up here - and they passed a bunch of other Amendments to limit its power. In view of these facts, is it REALLY the case that such men - even if they were white males and some owned slaves - were so enamored with the idea of hunting and target shooting that they'd put in a clause like this? Am I really so dense that I completely missed something?
Please, Perfessor, enlighten me...you condescending, paternalistic, anti-American f'ing, tyrant-wannabee!
Or he could be a specialist on former constitutions that are no longer in use.
With so much to know, one can't reasonably expect him to understand the U.S. Constitution.
Enemies of 2A will always be with us. I have a 500-page book called “The Bill of Rights: Its Origin and Meaning” by Irving Brant. He says nothing about 2A until page 470-something, then treats and dismisses it in a single paragraph. Says it pertains to a collective right only, mocks proponents of RKBA, and claims that 2A cannot be transformed into a personal right. One paragraph out of some 500 pages!
Not only does the 2nd A. reasonably imply the use of arms for self defense as opposed to for sports or hunting, but beware of any discussion about the 2nd A. where the 14th A. is not also mentioned. The 14th A. is important for any discussion about the 2nd A. for the following reason. John Bingham, the main author of Sec. 1 of the 14th A. included the 2nd A. when he referenced the first eight amendments as examples of constitutional statutes containing privileges and immunities that the 14th A. applied to the states. So there is no doubt in my mind that the 2nd and 14th Amendments protect the personal right to bear arms from both the federal and state governments as much as any other constitutional privilege and immunity protects other personal rights.
See the 2nd A. in the middle column of the following page in the Congressional Globe, a precursor to the Congressional Record.
http://tinyurl.com/y3ne4nNote that the reference page is dated for more than two years after the 14th A. was ratified. So Bingham was evidently reassuring his colleagues about the scope and purpose of the ratified 14th Amendment.
Also, in addition to Obama's politically correct slants on the 2nd A., let's not overlook Obama's constitutionally unauthorized federal spending proposals. This post (<-click), while addressing a tax-related thread, explains in more detail why misguided dreamers like Obama are foolishly following in the footsteps of FDR's dirty federal spending politics.
In fact, in sharp contrast to Obama's vision for health care, note that Thomas Jefferson, while reflecting on the Founder's division of federal and state powers, emphasized that the Founders trusted the states, not the federal government, with the care of the people.
"Our citizens have wisely formed themselves into one nation as to others and several States as among themselves. To the united nation belong our external and mutual relations; to each State, severally, the care of our persons, (emphasis mine) our property, our reputation and religious freedom." --Thomas Jefferson: To Rhode Island Assembly, 1801. ME 10:262 http://tinyurl.com/onx4jI think that Obama, like FDR, is clueless to the fact that he first needs to rally the people to exercise their Article V powers to amend the Constitution to properly authorize the federal government to address health care issues. In the meanwhile, we cannot allow people like Obama to make our high federal taxes even higher to pay for federal government programs that are constitutionally unauthorized in the first place.
The bottom line is that the people need to reconnect themselves with the restraints that the Founders put on the federal government as reflected by the Constitution. Bluntly put, the people need to quit sitting on their hands and send home constitutional "experts" like Obama who are not upholding their oaths to defend the Constitution, as opposed to trying to send them to the Oval Office.
Sen. Obama, when seconds count the police are only minutes away. Do you protect the right of law-abiding Americans to own and use a gun for the purpose of self-defense?
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