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To: monday

Well, my “turning the water off” was more of a rhetorical statement.

Personally, I don’t see ANY reason to kick ANYONE’s door in, period — alright with one caveat... there is a hostage situation and they have REASON to believe the person holding the hostages will kill one or more of them without surprising the bad guy.

In fact, if I am being held hostage, I’m going to HOPE they kick the door in and trust their shooting is good enough they won’t hit me (and I’m going to do the things I’ve been taught to do in those situations and have taught about those situations — hit the deck if I can)

I do not believe Police departments should be kicking in doors in ANY CIRCUMSTANCES other than that one. Tough if something is flushed, or deleted from a hard drive.

Their JOB is to protect our RIGHTS first, and foremost.

A person in their own home should not be subjected to doors being kicked in, criminal or NOT. There are better ways to do this thing.

Certainly walk up to the door in the daylight and present a warrant. The owner/occupant has little choice then, with a LEGAL warrant but to open the door and let the cop in.

Then they can detain them. Without a fight.

if the would-be criminal is going to fight... well, that’s when there is plenty of notice for him, the cops and everyone involved and if he/she gets themselves shot then, TOUGH.


31 posted on 02/26/2008 12:16:54 PM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/et al.)
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To: Rick.Donaldson
Their JOB is to protect our RIGHTS first, and foremost.

This is exactly what our entire society has completely forgotten!!!

Most everyone knows the first sentence of the third paragraph of The Declaration of Independence, "We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness."

Strange how almost no-one remembers the next sentence, "That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,..."

The SOLE purpose of government is to PROTECT the (God given) RIGHTS of the people!!

54 posted on 02/26/2008 12:57:34 PM PST by logic (All that is required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing...)
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To: Rick.Donaldson

The epitome of no-knock occurred in Waco, Texas a few years back. The “police” burned up a few people and shot a few more as I recall.


80 posted on 02/26/2008 6:28:18 PM PST by arthurus
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