Posted on 02/26/2008 8:55:17 AM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
We're continually told that Republicans are being paranoid when they want voters to show ID to prevent fraud.
Well, take a look at a newly-released investigation of the Milwaukee Police Department on voter fraud in the 2004 election — the year, as you'll recall, that John Kerry carried Wisconsin by about 11,000 votes out of almost 3 million.
The first screaming conclusion: "The reports of more ballots cast than voters recorded were found to be true."
UPDATE: This is fascinating reading, and huge, as it obliterates the "voter fraud is an urban legend" argument.
Page 8: "For example, a woman residing in the 4900 block of N. 18th with no recorded date of birth listed is also recorded in the 4900 block of N. 108th with a date of birth. This voter did reside at the N. 108th address at the time of the November General Election. She is now registered to vote and, more important, recorded as voting in two different Wards in the City of Milwaukee."
During a section dealing with the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee, the report states, "over 10 percent of the ballots cast in Ward 39 during the 2004 General Election were not properly certified by the Election Inspectors or were ineligible to be cast in this Ward." (page 23) "Over 2600 additional persons who do not live in Sandburg Hall are registered and able to vote from an address where they do not reside."
I've posted this story before but it bears repeating.
I was a poll watcher in PA in 2004 and they sent me to a black precinct that went 100% for gore in 2000. Algore got all 419 available votes.
In 2004, me {and my fellow poll watchers} along with my snub nose S & W 38, video cam, digital camera, went to the polls.
The final vote count was kerry 202, GWB 4.
Our presence didn't change the demonRAT vote toward kerry but we did keep most of the dead from voting, and kept the repeat votes to a minimum.
GWB still lost in PA, but it was due to voter fraud. Some precincts in Philly voted 104% for kerry.
Our state reps passed a voted ID law last year, but fat, fast eddy, the pimp gov. vetoed the law.
Without voter fraud, the demonRATs would not win in PA.
What the story omitted was the fact that in 2000 Bush lost to Gore in Wisconsin by only five thousand votes out of more than two million cast. After the election a Dem operative from New York City named Susan Gilligan, or some name like that, publicly bragged about passing out smokes and cash in Milwaukee to street people to vote for Gore. No outrage there. (smirk)
What we need is a federal law calling for harsh treatment of anyone convicted of vote fraud. All of the Kennedys would be in jail.
I always marveled at the Iraqis with purple fingers on election day. Why can’t we do even something that low-tech?
That sort of thing only works in places where ordinary things are hard to get. In the US, you can get purple ink and every other color all over the place. Trust me, we don’t want the US to become the sort of place where that system would work!
Maybe I’m missing something, but why would you steal the ink unless you were going to forcibly dip someone’s thumb in it? To what end?
strong residue of a certain color ink on them. And of course there are the religious objectors (JWs). And leftist troublemakers who would disrupt the election process by showing up at the precincts with purple thumbs when they actually hadn’t voted yet, demanding records be checked. And I guarantee that in some hard core pockets of organized vote fraud, the real ink would be replaced with one whose color can be chemically neutralized just as fast as it went on. Really, low tech security measures just don’t work in a high tech country.
Fraudulent electronic ballot stuffing can be detected far, far more easily than fraudulent registering and people voting in multiple areas.
You can use sign-in records to make sure there are the correct number of votes cast in a precinct, and the newer diebold voting machines print a paper record that the voter can see and verify when they vote.
In most cases, you should be able to detect that there was a problem, and go back to the paper trail to discover what happened. It does however require good post election canvasing, which should be observed by independent people as well as someone from both parties to make sure that it is done right.
The biggest problems are still low tech, and they exist because the politicians that are in power won't allow for meaningful reform.
Probably first nature!
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God bless You.
BS. Those of us who deal with the election fraud issue know that it comes from the Democrats. Go peddle your Rove paranoia over at DU.
Revelations - The Mark.... biometric
What “mark”? Any biometric ID system relies only on what’s naturally present in your own body. Even the most wacko interpretation of Revelation doesn’t suggest that people must remove their fingerprints, irises, and DNA from their bodies!
Hmmm, I wonder why the beginning of my reply to you got cut off. Anyway, it referred to the widespread use of inks of all colors (by artists, printers, paint-mixers at Home Depot, etc) providing plausible excuses for color residue on fingers, and the related widespread availability of very effective cleaning products for removing such residue.
Good explanation. Thank you.
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