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To: Mrs. Don-o

Those are horrible reasons. It’s the ultimate in bad Dr Frankenstein type stuff. It’s bringing human beings into the world for your entertainment and sense of accomplishment, pure shallow ego. About the only reason I can think of that’s worse would be Skinner who had a kid basically to prove his psychological theories correct.

I doubt people with so much ego that they think new people need to exist to keep them entertained have any hope of ever learning altruism, nor will they ever enter a noble form of adulthood.


175 posted on 02/26/2008 9:12:53 AM PST by discostu (aliens ate my Buick)
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To: discostu; Tax-chick; Frank Sheed
"Those are horrible reasons. It’s the ultimate in bad Dr Frankenstein type stuff. It’s bringing human beings into the world for your entertainment and sense of accomplishment, pure shallow ego."

No, no, no.

Perhaps I didn't communicate my perspective very well, so permit me to try again.

Having children is the only way to create "society." That's exactly what baby-having is all about: extending human fellowship --- society --- into the future. That includes "developing new people" who have a bond with you which works out in terms of intergenerational interdependence. You care for your parents and your children. Your children care for you, and for their children.

That is how human cultures have always survived, from the days of the proto-hominid Lucy and --- well, Mr. Australopithecus --- or Adam and Eve, whichever you prefer. Over the milennia, it has proven indispensible to human survival, and is, for that reason alone, perfectly respectable.

As for "genetic immortality": seeing your spouse's family line and your own, mirrored in your child, is one of the innocent pleasures of life. It provides just the right mix of comic-opera zaniness and familial empathy.

My son Ben has long thigh bones, just like Great-grandpa Ben McNabb. He has full-ish, "bee-stung" lips like my husband. All contributing to positive kidding and good fun. Makes a kid feel like he belongs, makes the parents feel he belongs to them. That is a major contributor to human contentment.

"About the only reason I can think of that’s worse would be Skinner who had a kid basically to prove his psychological theories correct"

I consider Skinner a depraved individual.

"I doubt people with so much ego that they think new people need to exist to keep them entertained have any hope of ever learning altruism, nor will they ever enter a noble form of adulthood."

You have mis-stated the principle entirely. It's connection and inter-dependence. Which is what the life of love consists of, both here and hereafter forever.

205 posted on 02/26/2008 12:00:05 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("We'll be watching your career with great interest, Anakin." --- Darth Sidious)
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