I would like that steak medium rare and the woman the same.
Posted on 02/25/2008 8:38:35 AM PST by kiriath_jearim
A battle is brewing between the Honolulu Police Department and the Hawaii Rifle Association over a proposed ban of a high-powered sniper rifle.
KITV's Catherine Cruz reported that the 50-caliber rifle is dubbed the most powerful rifle on the market today, and the HPD said it is their worst nightmare. That is why they said they want it out of civilian hands.
It's a weapon that's long been used by the military and law enforcement, but in most states, a person can buy it over the Internet or from a gun store, which is making law enforcement uneasy.
"There is nothing we have that can withstand this. If you look at an armored car, those things have a half-inch of steel. These can go through 1 inch of steel at a thousand yards," HPD Major Gregory Lefcourt said.
The rifle can fire 10 rounds in 10 seconds, and the bullets can travel for miles, police officials said.
They said that a shot fired from the rooftop at police headquarters could precisely hit a target at the state Capitol, four-tenths of a mile away.
The National Guard calls the weapon a threat to homeland security.
"It does concern us -- shooting down airplanes four miles distances," Hawaii National Guard Gen.Gary Ishikawa said.
The National Rifle Association said that a ban would infringe on the right to bear arms. It argued that the weapon hasn't ever been used in a crime in the islands.
"We haven't had any incidents of robbers at banks or terrorist shooting airplanes -- it just doesn't happen," HRA member Mark Plischke said.
But police said they don't want to wait until then.
They said the proposed ban will die in the judiciary committee if they don't get enough public support for the bill.
The rifles are outlawed for civilian use in California, New Jersey and New York.
The HRA maintained that their members use it for hunting or eradicating goats. Others users of the rifle said they enter long range firing competitions
The rifle is so powerful that it has been banned from the Kokohead Firing Range, range officials said. The rifle is only allowed at military ranges, which are off limits to civilians.
It is also very expensive. One rifle will fetch about $8,000, officials said.
There are 125 registered owners of the high-powered rifle in the state, with 90 owners living on Oahu.
Would you be willing to just take my word for it?
and F22 at $130 million, an Abrams at $8 million or an aircraft carrier at a couple of hundred billion. I wonder where he’s going to get the money?
How is that a lie? Assuming you don't live inone of the ban states, you can order one on-line from CDNN right now. They'll ship it to an FFL holder of your choice and you pick it up from him, for a usually nominal additional fee.
Long range target shooting. I've met people who use .50BMG single shots for "varmint" hunting, at over 1000 yards.
And why exactly do you support banning this weapon. What other weapons do you think need to be banned? Do you know how many of these have been used in a crime? Do you know how many legally owned machineguns have been used in crimes since the 1930s? (Hint... The last time I checked, it was 1 time... And it was by a rogue cop!).
Mark
Define "legitimate purpose," and the question answers itself. Me, I say yes.
The Barrett model 82A1 is a semiauto w/ 10 round magazines. The model 95 is a bolt action w/ 5 round magazines.
Who can shoot down a plane 4 miles away with a .50 caliber, I mean aside from Chuck Norris?
Read the statement it says that you can buy it on the internet.That is a false statement.
You can buy it from only an FFL.
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I’ll leave the light on for you...
So you believe others should not practice their freedom of speech and just agree with you? Sheesh.
If you really think your freedom of speech is at risk on this forum just because others disagree with you, I can understand why you want powerful weapons only in the hands of the government. You don't really understand the issues.
Somebody needs to investigate this so called general's qualifications. He's either grossly misinformed, or a really bad liar...
It seems that the "effective distance" of an M-2 machine gun is roughly 2000 meters. The maximum range is stated to be 6765m, or about 4 miles. But you won't be hitting anything at that range.... The maximum effective range is said to be roughly a mile and a quarter.
Mark
If you will take my word how good the meal and the companionship was!!!
Yes, and the short barrel version is four feet long, and weighs 30 pounds!
Mark
http://www.impactguns.com/store/barrett.html
Model 99 is in stock and ready for your order. Got $4,109.99 you want to get rid of?
I would like that steak medium rare and the woman the same.
So should we ban certain weapons because criminals/terrorists might get their hands on them? I don’t know about you, but I’d rather engage somebody at 800-1000 yards, where an AK-47 would be out of range. I could also stop their truck’s engine at half a mile with 2 or 3 regular lead loads.
Why don’t we ban .22caliber pistols because they’re the most widely used by criminals? It’s for the children, you know.
Do you have any idea of what constitutes an anti-aircraft gun? These are machine guns, often mounted in banks of 2 or more, firing between 450 and 600 rounds per minute, PER GUN! The only way that a single round of .50BMG would bring down a Japanese plane would be if it were an incindiary round that made a very lucky hit, causing the plane to explode, or more likely, a very lucky hit, killing the pilot. Otherwise it wasn't unusual to have hundreds or even thousands of rounds fired for a single airplane to be brought down. The vast majority of all rounds fired missed the planes.
Mark
“Read the statement it says that you can buy it on the internet.
That is a false statement.”
No it isn’t! I buy guns online all the time. You just have to have it shipped to the corner FFL dealer to fill out the transfer papers.
It take as much time a buying a six-pack.
Luke 22:36 - Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
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