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To: Dr. Sivana; All
Well isn't this interesting?

"I am a Christian, and I am a devout Christian. I believe in the redemptive death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. I believe that that faith gives me a path to be cleansed of sin and have eternal life. But most importantly, I believe in the example that Jesus set by feeding the hungry and healing the sick and always prioritizing the least of these over the powerful. I didn't 'fall out in church' as they say, but there was a very strong awakening in me of the importance of these issues in my life. I didn't want to walk alone on this journey. Accepting Jesus Christ in my life has been a powerful guide for my conduct and my values and my ideals.
- Barack Obama, 23 Jan 2008 in Christianity Today

I don't agree with any of Obama's political views, but unless someone can effectively prove that he was lying when he stated the above, I will accept his profession of faith until it is proven otherwise.
172 posted on 02/25/2008 1:41:20 PM PST by mkjessup (Any SOB who calls John F'in Kerry "his dear friend" will NEVER get my vote, no way, no how.)
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To: mkjessup; RaceBannon
From thread #172:
"I don't agree with any of Obama's political views, but unless someone can effectively prove that he was lying when he stated the above, I will accept his profession of faith until it is proven otherwise."
I am strongly leaning on this position to. If he acknowledges he accepts Christ Jesus as his path to salvation, then he is following what the NT books admonish each professed Christian to do. Off course I do not want him to become the POTUS. We have had to damn many socialist gain this position thus far.
252 posted on 02/25/2008 8:51:53 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter was our best choice...)
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To: mkjessup

http://www.sonsofapesandpigs.org/2008/02/press-release-america-is-being.html

America is being fooled by Barak Hussein Obama!!

“YES, MUSLIMS ARE MEMBERS IN OUR CHURCH.” “WE HAVE MANY MEMBERS IN OUR CHURCH WHO ARE MUSLIMS.”

I am Usama K. Dakdok, President of The Straight Way of Grace Ministry. I am invited by churches all over America to speak about ISLAM and its threat to America and the West.

I have had concerns about Senator Obama,s honesty regarding his so called Christian faith.

I called The United Church of Christ in Chicago Illinois, where Senator Obama is a member. If Senator Obama were indeed a Christian, he would be regarded as an “Apostate” which according to Islamic Law, would mean he would be subject to a death warrant imposed upon anyone who leaves Islam, according to the Prophet Mohammed. Many muslims who have left Islam have been murdered on this basis worldwide. Putting Islamic law aside, Obama would still be condemned by Islam. However, in Senator Obama’s instance, Muslims in America are joyously happy to think that Obama would be a Muslim President in the white House. Obama is deceiving America. Muslims would not be endorsing a Muslim who left Islam and became a Christian.

It is important to note that I had four witnesses to this telephone conversation with his church. The date, time and length of the entire conversation can be verified by phone records. The following is the conversation I had with the church, regarding his membership there.

“My name is Usama, and I am from Egypt. I am interested in joining the church. I need to ask some questions please.” The operator directed me to the membership office. I proceeded to ask questions that only a Muslim would ask. “What is the difference between Baptists and your church?” She responded, “ We believe exactly what Baptists believe.” My second question was, “How big is your church and what kind of church is it?” She responded, “We are a Black African American Church and we have 6000 members. I asked, “Do I have to attend Sunday school classes or other meetings to be a member?” She answered “No.” I asked, “Do I have to be baptized to join the church?” She again answered, “No.” I asked, “Do I have to pay a membership Fee to join?” Her answer was No. I then asked her what I needed to do to join. She told me that I needed to attend two Sunday School classes in a row and then I would walk the aisle. I replied, “That sounds easy. One last question please. IF I AM MUSLIM AND I BELIEVE IN PROPHET MOHAMMED, PEACE BE UPON HIM AND I ALSO BELIEVE IN JESUS, PEACE BE UPON HIM, DO I HAVE TO GIVE UP MY ISLAMIC FAITH TO BE A MEMBER IN YOUR CHURCH?” SHE ANSWERED, “NO. WE HAVE MANY MUSLIM MEMBERS IN OUR CHURCH.” It is important to note that Muslims would not attend church.

I asked her, “Is that how Senator Barak Hussein Obama became a member?” There was silence. I went on and stated that his father and step father were Muslims, his grandfathers and grandmother are Muslims, his uncles and aunts, nephews and nieces and cousins are Muslims and everyone in his family in Kenya are Muslims. She replied to me, “I am sorry, I cannot answer these questions for you.” I of course sensed she was uncomfortable. I ended the conversation by saying to her, “YOUR CHURCH HAS DONE GREAT HARM TO THIS COUNTRY BY COVERING A WOLF IN SHEEPS CLOTHING AND THAT WOLF IS SENATOR BORAK HUSSEIN OBAMA.” End of phone call.

This is fraud to the people of the United States of America.

Sincerely,

Usama Dakdok

P.S. I am willing to expose this to the media in all outlets. God Bless America

Send inquiries to SonsofApesAndpigs@gmail.com


296 posted on 02/26/2008 4:01:19 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: mkjessup

Source: http://www.simplysharing.com/assuringlight/obama.htm

“So, I have a deep faith. I’m rooted in the Christian tradition. I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people, that there are values that transcend race or culture, that move us forward, and that there’s an obligation for all of us individually as well as collectively to take responsibility to make those values lived.” (snip)

He is saying, essentially, that all people of faith – Christians, Jews, Muslims, animists, everyone – know the same God. It is, perhaps, an unlikely theological position for someone who places his faith squarely at the feet of Jesus to take. But that depends on how you hear a verse from the Gospel of St. John, where Jesus says, “I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father but by me,” Obama says.


299 posted on 02/26/2008 8:45:28 PM PST by donna ("We can create Kingdom on earth" - Barack Hussein Obama)
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