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Relative complains after death on flight (Empty Oygen Bottle)
Houston Chronicle ^ | Feb. 24, 2008, 9:16PM | RICHARD PYLE

Posted on 02/24/2008 8:14:18 PM PST by Paleo Conservative

NEW YORK — An American Airlines passenger died after a flight attendant told her he couldn't give her any oxygen and then tried to help her with faulty equipment, including an empty oxygen tank, a relative said.

The airline confirmed the flight death and said medical professionals had tried to save the passenger, Carine Desir, who was returning home to Brooklyn from Haiti.

Desir, who had heart disease, died of natural causes, medical examiner's office spokeswoman Ellen Borakove said Sunday.

Desir had complained of not feeling well and being very thirsty on the Friday flight from Port-au-Prince after she ate a meal, according to Antonio Oliver, a cousin who was traveling with her and her brother Joel Desir. A flight attendant gave her water, he said.

A few minutes later, Desir said she was having trouble breathing and asked for oxygen, but a flight attendant twice refused her request, Oliver said Sunday in a telephone interview.

After the flight attendant refused to administer oxygen to Desir, she became distressed, pleading, "Don't let me die," Oliver recalled.

Other passengers aboard Flight 896 became agitated over the situation, he said, and the flight attendant, apparently after phone consultation with the cockpit, tried to administer oxygen from a portable tank and mask, but the tank was empty.

Two doctors and two nurses were aboard and tried to administer oxygen from a second tank, which also was empty, Oliver said.

Desir was put on the floor, and a nurse tried CPR, to no avail, Oliver said. A "box," possibly a defibrillator, also was applied but didn't function effectively, he said.

"I cannot believe what is happening on the plane," he said, sobbing. "She cannot get up, and nothing on the plane works."

Oliver said he then asked for the plane to "land right away so I can get her to a hospital," and the pilot agreed to divert to Miami, 45 minutes away. But during that time, Desir died, Oliver said.

"Her last words were, 'I cannot breathe,'" he said.

Desir, 44, was pronounced dead by one of the doctors, Joel Shulkin, and the flight continued to Kennedy International Airport without stopping in Miami, with the woman's body moved to the floor of the first-class section and covered with a blanket, Oliver said.

American Airlines spokeswoman Sonja Whitemon wouldn't comment Sunday on Oliver's claims of faulty medical equipment. Shulkin, through his attorney, Justin Nadeau, declined to comment on the incident out of respect for Desir's family.

American Airlines, a unit of AMR Corp. and based in Fort Worth, Texas, is the largest domestic airline.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airlines; americanairlines; firstaid
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To: Shelayne
Or at least that is how we did it when I used to fly. Any inoperable safety equipment had to be replaced prior to flight.

I was delayed one time when Eastern took two hours to find a replacement oxygen bottle at their Miami base. I could have driven to Orlando faster. The oxygen had been used on the flight's previous leg when a pro wrestler had a high blood pressure attack.

21 posted on 02/24/2008 8:32:30 PM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Moonman62; Shelayne
"The oxygen tanks should have been checked on the pre-flight safety inspection by the flight attendants.

They may have (more than once) and the ones who pay the bills said, "forgettaboutit" and that was that.

23 posted on 02/24/2008 8:35:17 PM PST by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: nmh
I see a huge lawsuit on the horizon.

Why?

If she had a heart attack, and the O2 was working, would the administering of oxygen have prevented her death?

I doubt it.

24 posted on 02/24/2008 8:35:28 PM PST by It's me
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To: Paleo Conservative
A "box," possibly a defibrillator, also was applied ...

or possibly not.


26 posted on 02/24/2008 8:37:00 PM PST by billorites (Freepo ergo sum)
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To: Morgana
Maybe the flight attendant knew the tank was empty and didn’t wish to expose themselves to scene...but got one anyway!
27 posted on 02/24/2008 8:37:16 PM PST by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: DeLaine

IMHO, regarding certain high-probability last resort equipment, my answer is a qualified yes. But training is required, or the equipment is useless. I’m thinking OXY, DEFIB — but NO chemical meds (liability too great).


28 posted on 02/24/2008 8:38:24 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: It's me
If she had a heart attack, and the O2 was working, would the administering of oxygen have prevented her death?

Good question. I also wonder if they tried to administer aspirin.

The thing is the plane is supposed to be grounded without oxygen bottles functioning. That's going to look real bad in front of a jury, especially when her last words were she couldn't breath.

29 posted on 02/24/2008 8:38:38 PM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: txlurker
The oxygen masks that drop down don't have tanks. They are powered by a solid chemical that burns and gives off excess oxygen. They only last a short while, long enough for the airplane to descend to a breathable altitude. They can't be independently turned on. The only real oxygen tanks are meant for the pilots and they can't give them to passengers.

It sounds to me the lawsuit should be against God. He was calling her home.

30 posted on 02/24/2008 8:38:51 PM PST by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
Lovely.

Wonder how much inspection the lady had to endure to get on the flight.

31 posted on 02/24/2008 8:39:08 PM PST by Forgotten Amendments
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To: nmh
H*U*G*E* lawsuit ... and deservedly so. Shocking.
32 posted on 02/24/2008 8:39:13 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: nmh

I dislike lawyers, but i agree—I hope the family will own AMR when it’s over with *if all of the facts areas presented.


33 posted on 02/24/2008 8:39:35 PM PST by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem in the name of the G-d of Jacob)
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"Shouldn't we test the oxygen masks to make sure they're working?"

34 posted on 02/24/2008 8:41:01 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

Empty tanks and a dead battery; AA will pray to settle and not go to trial.


35 posted on 02/24/2008 8:42:02 PM PST by Atchafalaya
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To: Shelayne

Don’t airlines routinely ban individuals who need oxygen from flying? I thought it was some sort of safety issue.


36 posted on 02/24/2008 8:43:44 PM PST by singfreedom
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To: billorites
Yeah, serious bummer about the oxygen,
but can we offer you some complimentary peanuts?

Hey, they did upgrade her to First Class...

37 posted on 02/24/2008 8:43:49 PM PST by null and void (The less you know, the better Hillary looks.)
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To: Political Junkie Too
What about the emergency oxygen masks that drop from the ceiling? Did anyone think to try those?

As Tom Clancy once wrote, the bright yellow masks and vests are really intended to help locate victims of an air crash after the fact.

38 posted on 02/24/2008 8:44:05 PM PST by relictele (Liberal: one who walks away from a TSA queue still convinced government can solve problems.)
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To: Bender2

Once upon a time flight attendants were RNs..but that was in the 40s and 50s. Maybe we need to go back to that standard.


39 posted on 02/24/2008 8:44:07 PM PST by celtic gal
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To: Morgana
Just what is wrong with these bimbos known as flight attendants? This person asked for oxygen, they did not ask the flight attendant to sell her soul to the devil!!! Would it have killed the flight attendant to get the damn oxygen?

Your post assumes that Antonio Oliver - who stands to gain financially from a successful lawsuit - was giving an impartial account of the incident.

I'll reserve judgment.

40 posted on 02/24/2008 8:44:22 PM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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