Posted on 02/24/2008 5:17:27 PM PST by K-oneTexas
February 24, 2008
"I think...that the impact of the insane response to my cartoon will last for the rest of my life. It is sad indeed, but it has become a fact of my life."
By reprinting these cartoons we are heading toward a bigger conflict and that shows that both sides will be hostages of their radicals.
It is not a way of improving your rights and exercising your freedoms when you use these rights for insulting the most sacred values and symbols of others and inciting hatred...This is a very wrong, provocative path -- unacceptable.
...the governments [of the world] must be pressured to demand that the U.N. adopt a clear resolution or law that categorically prohibits affronts to prophets -- to the prophets of the Lord and his Messengers, to His holy books, and to the religious holy places.
The prophets that Allah sent prior to Muhammad were sent for a limited time ...and to a specific people. ... Allah established in the life of the Prophet Muhammad general, eternal, and all inclusive characteristics, and he gave every human being the possibility to imitate him and take his life as a model...The Christian is incapable of imitating Jesus regarding war and conciliation since Jesus never fought or made peace.
Allah has also made the prophet Muhammad into an epitome for religious warriors [Mujahideen] since he ordered Muhammed to fight for religion.
"Islam will return to Europe as a conqueror and a victor after being expelled from it twice -- once from the south, from Andalusia, and a second time, from the east, when it knocked several times on the doors of Athens."
"...the defender and champion of a jealous orthodoxy, more and more ossified in a blind respect for a rigid doctrine, suspecting and condemning in advance the least effort of rational speculation."
[For] having insulted the Prophet or blasphemed against the Word of God (i.e., The Koran)-dhimmis were executed.
...the streets were crowded with Moors [Muslims] of all ages and sexes, who made the air resound with their discordant cries. "here comes," said they, "she who blasphemed the Prophet -- death! death! to the impious wretch!"
Reviling or insulting the Prophet (pbuh) in writing or speech; speaking profanely or contemptuously about him or his family; attacking the Prophet's dignity and honor in an abusive manner; vilifying him or making an ugly face when his named is mentioned; showing enmity or hatred towards him, his family, his companions, and the Muslims; accusing, or slandering the Prophet and his family, including spreading evil reports about him or his family; defaming the Prophet; refusing the Prophet's jurisdiction or judgment in any manner; rejecting the Sunnah; showing disrespect, contempt for or rejection of the rights of Allah and His Prophet or rebelling against Allah and His Prophet.
...the blasphemy law is felt to be a sword of Damocles and has developed a huge symbolic significance which contributes substantially to the atmosphere of intimidation of Christians. The detrimental effect of the law...is most dramatically illustrated by the incident at Shanti Nagar in February 1997 in which tens of thousands of rioting Muslims destroyed hundreds of Christian homes, and other Christian property, following an accusation of blasphemy. Furthermore the blasphemy has engendered a wave of private violence. Equating blasphemy with apostasy and influenced by the tradition of direct violent action and self-help which goes back to the earliest times of Islam, some Muslims feel they are entitled to enforce the death penalty themselves.
"The guy should be hanged. He was making fun of Islam's rules and regulations. He was making fun of the Prophet Mohammed, peace be upon him. You cannot criticize any principles which have been approved by sharia. It is the words of the Prophet."
"I think he is not a Muslim. A Muslim would not make this kind of mistake. He should be punished so that others can learn from him."
...gravely threatens the inter-cultural consensus on which the international human rights instruments are based; introduces, in the name of the defense of human rights, an intolerable discrimination against both non-Muslims and women; reveals a deliberately restrictive character in regard to certain fundamental rights and freedoms..; [and] confirms the legitimacy of practices, such as corporal punishment, that attack the integrity and dignity of the human being.
Muhammad could not change the revelation; he could only explain and interpret it. There are liberal Muslims and conservative Muslims; there are Muslims learned in theology and Muslims devoid of learning. They discuss, they interpret, they rationalize -- but all by going round and round within the closed circle of Islam. There is no possibility of getting out of the fundamentals of Islam; there is no provision of introducing any innovation.
The underlying problem for the West is not Islamic fundamentalism. It is Islam, a different civilization whose people are convinced of the superiority of their culture....
The great ideas of the West -- rationalism, self-criticism, the disinterested search for truth, the separation of church and state, the rule of law and equality under the law, freedom of thought and expression, human rights, and liberal democracy -- are superior to any others devised by humankind. It was the West that took steps to abolish slavery; the calls for abolition did not resonate even in Africa, where rival tribes sold black prisoners into slavery. The West has secured freedoms for women and racial and other minorities to an extent unimaginable 60 years ago. The West recognizes and defends the rights of the individual: we are free to think what we want, to read what we want, to practice our religion, to live lives of our choosing.
...Nor does the West need lectures on the superior virtue of societies in which women are kept in subjection under sharia, endure genital mutilation, are stoned to death for alleged adultery, and are married off against their will at the age of nine; societies that deny the rights of supposedly lower castes; societies that execute homosexuals and apostates. The West has no use for sanctimonious homilies from societies that cannot provide clean drinking water or sewage systems, that make no provisions for the handicapped, and that leave 40 to 50 percent of their citizens illiterate.
Ping to FR’s preeminent Islamic scholar.
You have three wives? Then how many mothers-in-law?
You have a verse, "there is no compulsion in religion". We hold that verse to be true. We are aware that some of your scholars teach that it is superceded by other verses. We deny it. We hold they those scholars are introducing their personal opinions and placing them above the word of the Koran. We consider them heretics and innovators, however long their traditions, and claim that they are following only themselves.
We do not expect every Muslim country to agree with us in this respect. In the long run, we will wage war until you say, "there is no compulsion in religion". But practically, we may make truces with some of your nations from time to time, as it suits us, even where you refuse to say this. These are truces only, for practical reasons. We concede nothing thereby on the principle, and reserve the right to wage war again until you say, "there is no compulsion in religion", with your own Koran.
In our own countries, we have made our laws in conformity with that verse. Historically we fought among ourselves for a long time before settling that this was the only true religious attitude, as we found that religion compelled, is not religion. True inward faith is required for religion, and it is destroyed by compulsion in these matters. Whether you agree with this or not, we require you while residing in our countries as guests, to abide by our understanding of the matter. If you like, you may say that while in our countries, you are in the situation Muhammad was in when he proclaimed that verse.
If, while a guest in our country, you contradict our law in this matter, then we hold you an open enemy, as well as a heretic and an innovator and a troublemaker. We will declare war on you and your blood shall be licit. In practice we may prefer to imprison such troublemakers, or to deport them. This is entirely up to us. We will consider anyone's publically contradicting the verse "there is no compulsion in religion" while a guest in our countries, itself an act of war that makes your blood licit for us. If we choose, we may have harser measures for those who so act than for those who only teach it, but even teaching it is an act of war and suspends our hospitality. What you do in your own countries is your own affair, up to the statement above, that in the long run we shall wage war upon you until you accept your own Koran, on this matter, and reject the self appointed revisions of it by heretics and troublemakers.
That is how this should be dealt with.
Fine question BTW.
up yours muhammed
If we can rid the DNC of Socialist DINOs (Democrats In Name Only), the RINOs we picked up from the Democrat party would have a home again in their OWN party.
As it is now, the political tug of war is pushing the political “middle” Left.
Bill Clinton already went on record (last year?) saying that the cartoonists should be prosecuted.
>>By reprinting these cartoons we are heading toward a bigger conflict and that shows that both sides will be hostages of their radicals.<<
The problem with this analysis is that Westerners don’t think think belief in freedom of speech makes one a radical... and the other side doesn’t seem to think that killing people to oppose freedom of speech is radical.
Thus, a meeting of the minds appears to not be possible.
Fight it now? Fully half of our current electorate see no problem with importing jihadists and Mexicans.
In a couple of generations islamists and Mexicans will control our congress.
read later
jeez e that will leave a mark...
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The great ideas of the West — rationalism, self-criticism, the disinterested search for truth, the separation of church and state, the rule of law and equality under the law, freedom of thought and expression, human rights, and liberal democracy — are superior to any others devised by humankind. It was the West that took steps to abolish slavery; the calls for abolition did not resonate even in Africa, where rival tribes sold black prisoners into slavery. The West has secured freedoms for women and racial and other minorities to an extent unimaginable 60 years ago. The West recognizes and defends the rights of the individual: we are free to think what we want, to read what we want, to practice our religion, to live lives of our choosing.
...Nor does the West need lectures on the superior virtue of societies in which women are kept in subjection under sharia, endure genital mutilation, are stoned to death for alleged adultery, and are married off against their will at the age of nine; societies that deny the rights of supposedly lower castes; societies that execute homosexuals and apostates. The West has no use for sanctimonious homilies from societies that cannot provide clean drinking water or sewage systems, that make no provisions for the handicapped, and that leave 40 to 50 percent of their citizens illiterate.’
bingo ...that lady know how to hit the bullseye every time..
I was answering Old Sarge’s assertion that he might find 3-4 wives... ehhh,,,,, more enjoyable!
4 mothers in law? I wonder if the average islamo would define that as Hell on Earth?
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