Posted on 02/24/2008 11:35:46 AM PST by grundle
Nathaniel Sheetz knows he and other Penn State University students are protected by armed campus police.
Just the same, he'd like to start bringing his own gun to class. If someone were to pull out a weapon and start shooting, he argues, he and his classmates could be dead in seconds before those officers arrive.
Mr. Sheetz belongs to a group whose controversial message is getting more attention after a string of school shootings this month, including one at Northern Illinois University in which a gunman killed five people and wounded 16 in a lecture hall before taking his own life.
Students for Concealed Carry on Campus, a group formed last year after the Virginia Tech massacre, contends that the way to prevent carnage is to allow people with gun permits such as Mr. Sheetz to carry concealed weapons on campus. The group's Web site says it has a presence on 150 campuses, including Penn State, the University of Pittsburgh and six other colleges in this state.
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Stop them? no, probably not.
End them early?
Yes.
And maybe, just maybe, if more of them were stopped early by armed citizens.
The next loons might think twice.
Sorry, I don't recall the exact details of those incidents. If I'm not mistaken, though, the shooters could have been stopped sooner if the law-abiding gun owners had been allowed to carry on the campus. I'm fairly sure that I remember there was a delay that occurred since they had to go to their cars to retrieve their guns.
I certainly like their chances of stopping such vermin much more than that of unarmed students....
Yeah, how well is that workin' for ya?
All the public places with signs stating no one can carry in a gun are inviting crazies to walk in and start blasting away knowing full well no one will be able to stop them. When was the last time anyone pulled a Columbine at a shooting range?
To answer the question —YES!!
Minimum.
And be well trained, schooled, and practice frequently on a regular basis.
There is no chance of stopping an outlaw shooter in a gun free zone. There is every chance of stopping an outlaw shooter in an armed society.
Which would you choose?
My choice is to stop the outlaw murderer and save innocent lives.
What does this have to do with my post that stated everyone should have at least two guns, be trained, and practice frequently.
Conceptually, Mr. Sheetz is protected by campus police. From a practical point of view, however, this so-called protection is arguably pure fantasy. Indeed, the only thing that calling 911 in an emergency actually guarantees is the right to file a police report after a crime has been committed.
The bottom line is just because we can send messages electronically at the speed of light doesn't mean that the police can move at the speed of light. Yet people seem to be accepting the Hollywood reality that speed of light communications means that police can likewise get to a crime scene at the speed of light.
I recall reading that some split the scene and one (Columbine) even fired a shot before leaving.
http://freestudents.blogspot.com/2007/04/when-mass-killers-meet-armed-resistance.htmlThe related article tells of an incident on a Virginia campus that took place a few years before last year's VT tragedy. A renegade student was disarmed by students having locked guns in their cars before police arrived at the scene. Note that the article also indicates that many reports about the incident ignored that the gun-shooting student had been stopped by other armed students.
Thank you thank you!
I’ve been looking for that picture! Forgot to save it last time I saw it.
Love the shape of those, um,,, rifles
I think it’s doubtful they could stop them. The media could easily stop them, though, I think, by no longer reporting the incidents. I am convinced that most of these killers do it for the notariety. Deny them the notariety, and they will no longer have a motive to commit these crimes.
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