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To: blackelkspeaks
By God, I am so sick and tired of contending with loudmouth leftist-liberal Republicans heckling those of us who can’t stomach Madman Juan McCain the Communist. For years on this website I’ve read these jerks prattle on endlessly with the asinine trope about “putting adults in charge”, all the while watching these “moderates” destroy the Republican Party, transmogrifying it into some backassward knockoff of the Donks, and railing against the “neanderthal, racist, nativist” conservatives. If these people are so cock-sure that they’ve got it all wrapped up, then they should just shut the heck up with the lamentations about conservatives not voting for their guy and go get all of those “moderates” and “independents” to cover their asses. Why on earth do they just assume that conservatives have no where else to go with their votes. They think they don’t need them or want them anyway. And, with McCain as a candidate, I can assure them that the feeling is mutual.

Dang that was eloquent.

For the record I am not a leftist-liberal, McCain was not my first choice by a long shot. Actually I was not overly gung ho about the whole field. However McCain won, fair and square whether you agree or not and I find him far better than Obama or Hillary.

In case you haven't figured things out yet, it's impossible for any nominee of the party to win without support of people either more conservative, more moderate or more liberal than them.

I hate to break it to you, but I doubt that a nominee from the most conservative area of the party would even have a chance.

But don't let reality get in the way of your rant.

124 posted on 02/22/2008 8:23:32 PM PST by billva
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To: billva

Where was it ever said that conservatives had to have the perfect candidate. We voted for Bush who was certainly not a conservative’s conservative. However, McCain is from the far left of the GOP party. Maybe you can forget all the ways he betrayed the party as well as conservatives. But I can not. You think conservatives must support the most liberal of Repubs, but moderates shouldn’t have to support really conservative candidates. Exactly how is this fair? Why are moderates never told ‘hey this candidate is a little on the conservative side, but for the good of the party you must support him/her. Why? Why is it alway the conservatives that must ‘compromise’?


130 posted on 02/22/2008 8:28:28 PM PST by nyconse
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To: billva

On a related note, I see here that many people say even though they will undermine the Republican candidate by refusing to vote for him, they still care about having a GOP-controlled Congress.

How do we do that? We have to put together a majority.

What does that mean?

It means we have to elect a certain number of people with (R) behind their names. Period. When you reach that number of (R)’s, you have the majority. And you have a lot more power.

What does this mean in practicality?

To get to that magic number, all across this land, good, decent conservatives have to hold their nose and vote for RINO congresscritters as a way to get a majority so that true conservative Republicans from other areas can become committee chairmen and so on.

The very people these quitters are wailing against are the people who have sense enough to see how their vote fits in to the big picture of our country’s government.

For years I lived in a moderately conservative district and, if I voted Republican, I had to vote for a real dope. I did so. Why? Because I knew that for guys such as Newt Gingrich and Henry Hyde and so on to get into positions of leadership, they had to have a majority.

They needed those (R)’s, and I voted with the intention of helping them, and thereby the nation, not the dope I was voting for.

And it worked.

Is this chopped liver?

Is it not a show of reprehensible ingratitude for some now to say they are, essentially, too good to vote for a RINO when good, decent conservatives all across this land consistently make this “sacrifice” for the greater good?

How do they really think we made a majority except for a lot of good people holding their nose?


176 posted on 02/23/2008 12:01:05 AM PST by fightinJAG (Rush was right when he used to say: "You NEVER win by losing.")
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