Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Canada eyes Afghan exit by 2011
bbc online ^ | 22/2/08 | bbc online

Posted on 02/22/2008 1:53:47 PM PST by Rikstir

The 2,500 Canadian troops deployed in south Afghanistan are due to leave within four years under a proposal likely to be passed by parliament.

Prime Minister Stephen Harper, who leads a minority Conservative government, unveiled the plan under pressure from the Liberal opposition.

The Liberals were pushing for an even earlier withdrawal and for Canada's troops to play a non-combat role.

At least 78 Canadians have been killed in Afghanistan since 2002.

The new schedule sees all soldiers leaving the violent Kandahar region by the end of 2011.

"It seems clear that we have moved significantly toward the kind of bipartisan consensus that can be presented to parliament for ratification," Mr Harper said.

Liberal leader Stephane Dion said the plan, which will go to a parliamentary vote in the next few weeks, met 95% of his party's demands.

"We welcome the new motion, which is based on the Liberal motion," he added.

Mr Harper has always supported extending Canada's military mission in Afghanistan and resisted opposition pressure to end it in 2009, when the mission's current deadline expires.

However, Canada's likely withdrawal may put further pressure on Nato's under-strength forces in Afghanistan, analysts believe.


TOPICS: Canada; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2011; afghanistan; canada; canadiantroops; nato; timetable; willingcoalition

1 posted on 02/22/2008 1:53:49 PM PST by Rikstir
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Rikstir

So liberals say that we created Taliban Afghanistan because we left after they drove the Soviets out, yet they claim that we should do the same again?


2 posted on 02/22/2008 1:55:36 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: KC_Conspirator

From my point of view this is another example of a nation airing their dirty laundry in public. Setting a fixed term of deployment allows the enemy to plan around that fact. It also has the ability to persuade other nations to impose a similar timetable, so the Taliban just need to stay low until 2012 and they get their country back.

Taliban were created by Pakistan’s Musharraf to essentially maintain control over a failed state on his border. They follow an interpretation of islam similar to that of Saudi Arabia, that of Wahabiism. They seem a bit like Pol Pots Khmer Rouge in that they are a regressive, rural power.


3 posted on 02/22/2008 2:03:15 PM PST by Rikstir
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: KC_Conspirator

Canada wants to drop out of a defensive alliance with us because they suffered a 0.5% KIA rate? Pathetic. Are the rest of our NATIO allies that weak?


4 posted on 02/22/2008 2:18:55 PM PST by Creeping Incrementalism
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: fanfan; Clive

Canada war ping


5 posted on 03/01/2008 5:30:14 PM PST by exg
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Creeping Incrementalism

The media spin on this story is backwards.

Canada’s original committment was until 2007. The Minority Conservative government has managed to push an extention through twice—to 2009, and now, until 2011, and even that, is not a “hard” deadline—stating some kind of a date was the only way our Conservative Minority Government was going to get the extention passed—also, keep in mind, that the current agreement with the Afghanistan Government (The Afghanistan Compact) ends in 2011.


6 posted on 03/01/2008 5:38:00 PM PST by exg
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: exg
Agreed

Also remember that this article comes from Auntie which has its own agenda.

7 posted on 03/01/2008 6:45:25 PM PST by Clive
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: exg; Alberta's Child; albertabound; AntiKev; backhoe; Byron_the_Aussie; Cannoneer No. 4; ...
Auntie neglects to mention that The Harper minority govenment was faced with two parties wanting to end the mission in February 2009 and one that wants it terminated now,

Harper again proves to be a better parliamentarian than Dion. He maneuvered Dion into doing what Harper wants while allowing Dion to think that it was a Grit victory.

Harper set it up so that the Grits could not afford to use this issue to provoke an election and at the same time brought down a budget that the opposition also could not afford to oppose.

Remember that in a parliamentary system either vote would have been a vote of confidence. If the Tories had lost on either issue it would have brought down the government and forced the Governeor General to drop the writ.

"Politics is the art of the possible"
-- Otto von Bismark

8 posted on 03/01/2008 7:05:31 PM PST by Clive
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Creeping Incrementalism
Creeping Incrementalism wrote:
"Canada wants to drop out of a defensive alliance with us because they suffered a 0.5% KIA rate? Pathetic. Are the rest of our NATIO allies that weak?"

Canada's KIA rate is larger on a per capita basis than any of the other NATO allies.

Canadian Forces are in the hottest theatre in Afghanistan, with robust ROE and without the kind of caveats that are keeping the forces of allies like France and Germany in the relatively less active north.

The Canadian Conservative government wants to finish the job. It is a minority government. The Liberals and NDP want to leave with the job unfinished.

Harper has maneuvered the Grits into going along with a two year extension after their leader had proclaimed that he was prepared to fight an election on his position that the mission NOT be extended.

Look to your own liberals if you want to see something "pathetic", one of whom is about to win your presidency.

9 posted on 03/01/2008 7:20:49 PM PST by Clive
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Rikstir


Two Thousand what? Stand back while we kick some Taliban ass and re-write the book on how to shut down terrorist scumbags.
10 posted on 03/01/2008 7:30:43 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: KC_Conspirator

Some nefarious scoundrel should find a virus that attacks opium poppies; once that jobs done everyone can leave.


11 posted on 03/01/2008 7:45:20 PM PST by mathurine
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Rikstir; GMMAC; Clive; exg; kanawa; conniew; backhoe; -YYZ-; Former Proud Canadian; Squawk 8888; ...

12 posted on 03/02/2008 5:25:40 AM PST by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: exg

Thanks for the ping, exg.


13 posted on 03/02/2008 5:37:57 AM PST by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Clive

“Harper has maneuvered the Grits into going along with a two year extension after their leader had proclaimed that he was prepared to fight an election on his position that the mission NOT be extended.

Look to your own liberals if you want to see something “pathetic”, one of whom is about to win your presidency.”

It is good to hear the conservatives in Canada are fighting to stay in Afghanistan until the job is done. And while our liberals are indeed pathetic, none of the leading Dem candidates is advocating abandoning that country.


14 posted on 05/05/2008 4:15:38 PM PDT by Creeping Incrementalism
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson