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To: ishmac

As I asked the author of the post you quoted approvingly, what suggests that Barack Obama is a product of affirmative action? He’s an unusually talented guy. We should oppose him because he’s a liberal, not because any successful black liberal should be assumed to owe everything to AA.


40 posted on 02/22/2008 9:55:07 AM PST by BackInBlack ("The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice.")
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To: BackInBlack

Absolutely! He is the most liberal Senator in the US Senate. Everyone is tip toeing around that...but the fact is he makes Teddy Kennedy look (on some votes) conservative. That is the point that needs made over and over and over again.


42 posted on 02/22/2008 9:59:43 AM PST by PennsylvaniaMom (Michelle Obama: this seasons Teresa Heinz.)
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To: BackInBlack
...what suggests that Barack Obama is a product of affirmative action? He’s an unusually talented guy.

My agreement was with his remarks about the "affirmative action syndrome," not about Obama in particular. Obama seems bright enough, although I have never been "wowed" by his rhetoric. I find most of his speeches boring. I see almost nothing new or innovative in them. He has the patois of the chattering classes down and expresses liberal ideas with a certain fresh vigour, but I don't find any of it very insightful. I consider some of his talk downright dangerous (For example, yesterday he said that Bush hasn't led well in relations with Mexico--he should be more accomodating of Mexican demands!)

Then again, anyone running for office has to speak at the level of the audience, and audiences are dumbed down nowadays. Maybe it is unfair to judge him on what he says in public; political speeches are by nature full of cliches and platitudes. He probably comes off smarter in person than when he appears on the stump.

Michelle, OTOH, does strike me as an AA product and that was the focus of my agreement. There's a certain belligerence and stridency in her manner that indicates a lack of confidence. She does strike me as having been promoted way beyond her level. People like this tend to be haunted by a sense that they haven't really deserved their accomplishments. They don't know whether they could have made it on their own. They make up for by heaping scorn on the environment around them and trying to stifle any criticism of their own performance. That was what I had in mind and what I think Noonan was hinting at in the article.

This issue is going to come up more often as Obama gets more scrutiny. That may be unfair, but as you know, race questions are going to interject themselves into the campaign. That is lamentable, but it's reality.

49 posted on 02/22/2008 11:00:26 AM PST by ishmac
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To: BackInBlack

Right. It is difficult to understand simply why we just can’t oppose his highly liberal views as opposed to playing the “affirmative action card” (which is another form of the race card).


53 posted on 02/22/2008 11:17:04 AM PST by Shade2
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