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A New Muslim Nation in Europe?
cbn.com ^ | February 21, 2008 | Dale Hurd

Posted on 02/21/2008 1:12:50 PM PST by khnyny

Kosovo, a former province of Serbia, caused international furor when it declared its independence this week.

While the world community works out the international implications of Kosovo's independence, others are worried about a Muslim-majority state in Europe. The creation of a such a state raises fears of a radical Islamic state that would persecute Christians and become a base for terrorism.

Christians Targeted for Almost a Decade

Since 1999, the Orthodox Christian Serb minority has been attacked by the Albanian Muslim population.

In 2004, Muslim mobs, angry at the murder of three ethnic Albanians, attacked Serb enclaves, destroying hundreds of churches and monasteries.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbn.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: eurabia; europe; kosovo; serbia; wot
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To: Publius6961

OK, tell that to the beauraucrats at the EC who beleive the Balkans to be part of Europe, and Turkey not. GEorgraphy matters. In fact, I think we have already seen the highwater mark of globalism for a while. I do not celebrate the decline of globalism, but I regard it as an outcome of several geopolitical trends.


41 posted on 02/21/2008 2:46:18 PM PST by oblomov
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To: Imperial Warrior
“Kosovo is the first anchor in Europe, violent Islam has achieved in its goal of forced conversion and conquest made possible by the ignorance, stupidity, and naivete of contemporary western governments that have forgotten what the face of war looks like and the consequences of allowing madmen and murderers to exist and flourish among them while pursuing lofty goals of lecturing the victims of such about “civility” and “social justice”.

Courtesy of George W. Bush, doting godfather of the KLA, funder of Mohammedan terrorists and lickspittel of the Saudis.

42 posted on 02/21/2008 2:54:48 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: khnyny
Has it occurred to anyone that part of the plan is to engage/preoccupy Russia somehow with this unstable situation? Perhaps goading them to intervene militarily.

Could be.

By whom? To what end?

43 posted on 02/21/2008 3:03:41 PM PST by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.)
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To: Kolokotronis
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5i1SdCk4DL7J0VDKBJwTrVlqeTL4wD8UUVOT02

Kosovo Counting on NATO

By NEBI QENA – 34 minutes ago

PRISTINA, Kosovo (AP) — Kosovo is counting on NATO to secure the new nation's borders and help provide stability as Serbia angrily challenges its statehood, the president said Thursday in his first interview since Kosovo declared independence.

President Fatmir Sejdiu said in an interview with The Associated Press that NATO's promise not to abandon Kosovo provided a "powerful guarantee" for stability. He warned Serbia that any attempts to partition the fledgling country along ethnic lines would bring "grave consequences."

44 posted on 02/21/2008 3:06:00 PM PST by Brian S. Fitzgerald ("We're going to drag that ship over the mountain.")
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald

“NATO’s promise not to abandon Kosovo provided a “powerful guarantee” for stability.”

Sejdiu is as big a fool as those of us who supported Bush.


45 posted on 02/21/2008 3:14:31 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Red6

Atrocities and killings by both sides as a result of a civil war are an inescapable reality. I justified nothing. However, the US under Clinton chose sides in a civil war and declared one side, a former Christian US ally culpable, while exonerating a radicalized Muslim former US adversary for the same crimes and atrocities based on a biased and leftist activist geopolitical agenda. Kosovars and the KLA are a European Muslim front for radical Islam then and now. The US, the EU, and the UN labelling victims and aggressors in a religious civil war and siding against the dominant Christian religion of Europe is no surprise and in line with the antipathy and suicidal stupidity of contemporary liberals and leftists who are at war with Christianity to the extent that they cannot and will not see the vastly greater threat posed to their leftist ideology by theocratic expansionist Islam which employs violence and terrorism as a common tactic to convert unbelievers and eliminate opponents.

Since the KLA has cooperated with Muslim terrorist groups in the spread of radical Islam and even sent troops into Chechnya to fight alongside imported middle eastern insurgents who also fight US and allied troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, I’d say Clinton and his clueless European allies in the 90’s not only backed the wrong horse but the one who turned on us after helping them achieve political independence. Par for the course for stupid liberal dopes. Due to a series of stupid choices and policies, Europe is rapidly being tranformed into a Islamic civilization in which atrocities against innocent people by Muslim thugs will be common practice.


46 posted on 02/21/2008 3:14:38 PM PST by Imperial Warrior
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To: Iron Munro

It figures you would ask for details.:)

I don’t know, but I can wildly speculate like everybody else and see what sticks.

1. Perhaps the US is overextended with Iraq and Afghanistan, so it’s Europe and Russia’s turn to deal with the mess

2. Get Russia to deplete their warchests and manpower

3. See and evaluate Russia’s military in action

4. Undermine Putin in front of his countrymen

I’m sure there’s more, but that’s off the top of my head.


47 posted on 02/21/2008 3:15:29 PM PST by khnyny (Quid Est Veritas)
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To: khnyny

I’m thinking Putin may send his flying clown show over the Mediterranean.


48 posted on 02/21/2008 3:20:00 PM PST by Brian S. Fitzgerald ("We're going to drag that ship over the mountain.")
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To: Kolokotronis

You are right. Both Clinton and Bush through NATO are useful idiots in the spread of violent Islam in Europe by backing an Islamic state based on and born of radicalism. However, Europe through the EU (Eurabian Union) are most at fault for allowing a poisonous snake to be born and nurtured in their midsts while denouncing all those who raise deserved alarm about the emergence of another Islamic theocracy in the heart of Christendom which is already disappearing under the weight of degenerate and diseased anti-Christian radical leftist ideology. Now as I said, Islam has a new anchor in Europe which will act as a base of operations and safe haven for Muslims to wage a jihad on European Christians and seculars alike. I guess the idiots that run governments in Europe and around the world forgot to read about the previous Muslim attempt to conquer Europe and Spain’s 700 year occupation under the Moors. These fools might also want to thumb through the Koran where them (the infidels) have these choices: conversion, enslavement, exile, or death.


49 posted on 02/21/2008 3:31:28 PM PST by Imperial Warrior
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To: khnyny
It would be "an historical curiosity" only if a Brit were giving the lesson, but "a historical curiosity" if an American were giving such a lesson.

The rule concerns itself not with individual words in the lexicon, but with pronunciation. The example you cite comes merely by way of historical example, to highlight the fact that orthography should play no part in the rule's application. Though there is an initial 'h' in the spelling of the word, Brits don't pronounce it. Hence, its usefulness as an time-honored example for schoolchildren.

Neither orthography nor "a historical tradition" determine the indefinite article, as if the rule's tale were to be wagged by the dog. That extrapolation derives from a hubris of prescriptive grammarians, now deceased. Their wills for progeny, posterity or pupils-future have not been granted a grandfather provision or a vote, as if it were henceforward to be legitimately incorporated into the grammar.

The actual rule concerns itself with the speaker's use of an initial consonant in pronunciation--not orthography--to determine which alternate version of the indefinite article is to be used. On-glides are consonants, though vocalic e.g., "a wow-factor," or "a yearly increase."

Optional initial glottal stops are speaker variations that are to be disregarded, e.g., "an initial consonant," which may, in the pronunciation of some, contain a glottal stop prior to the onset of the word, "initial."

Even Brits would say "a haughty demeanor", which reinforces the point and serves to put to rest any musings about a authentic tradition aspect to the rule.

HF

50 posted on 02/21/2008 3:35:06 PM PST by holden
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To: khnyny
A New Muslim Nation in Europe?
I thought this was going to be about Britain.
51 posted on 02/21/2008 4:02:45 PM PST by the anti-liberal (Write in: Fred Thompson)
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To: Imperial Warrior

“Now as I said, Islam has a new anchor in Europe which will act as a base of operations and safe haven for Muslims to wage a jihad on European Christians and seculars alike.”

Unless the cousins and brothers of some of us strangle the Caliban in its crib....


52 posted on 02/21/2008 4:06:59 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: RightWhale

Well, maybe some in the Pentagon are viewing Kosovo as the next “flypaper” in the WOT.

No, that’s just crazy talk, I guess.


53 posted on 02/21/2008 4:08:01 PM PST by JoanVarga ("¿Por qué no te calles?")
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To: Imperial Warrior
"These fools might also want to thumb through the Koran where them (the infidels) have these choices: conversion, enslavement, exile, or death."

As soon as formerly Christian cultures lose the right to protest its advance, the muslim wave can revert at will to thousand year old cultural standards.

54 posted on 02/21/2008 4:30:50 PM PST by Brian S. Fitzgerald ("We're going to drag that ship over the mountain.")
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To: khnyny

The Clinton Legacy has now merged with the Bush Legacy.

And mankind steps closer to the abyss.


55 posted on 02/21/2008 4:32:45 PM PST by airborne (For ENGLISH, press '1' . For SPANISH, hang up and learn ENGLISH!)
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To: khnyny

Great link- April 25th. Amin Al-Husseini is made chief architect [xxvii] of Nazi offensive in Bosnia: Serbian-Cyrillic alphabet outlawed. Orthodox Serbs forced to wear Blue armband. Jewish Serbs forced to wear Yellow armband.

While in Bosnia, Amin Al-Husseini takes the title “Protector of Islam”. One hundred thousand (100,000) Bosnian Muslims join the Nazi ranks. They seek Nazi approval to establish autonomous Nazi protectorate for Bosnian Muslims.

Amin Al-Husseini approves the Pejani Plan, calling for the extermination of the Serbian population. Nazi Germany refuses to implement the Pejani plan.

Bosnian ethnic cleansing under Amin al Husseini:

. Orthodox Christian Serbs: 200,000 killed

. Jewish Bosnians: 22,000 killed

. Gypsies: over 40,000 killed

Husseini’s legacy of hatred is a major factor in today’s Bosnia/Herzegovina conflict against the Serbs and their leader Milosevic.

http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/amin_en.html#part2


56 posted on 02/21/2008 4:43:10 PM PST by anglian
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To: Imperial Warrior

Serbia had the military and economic ability, the political will, and a motive for this war. They had no intent of ending their actions despite an international community, Europe, and the neighboring states affected demanding they stop. They were calling the shots and since they refused to stop, they got pummeled. No rational person will claim that the Muslims had some moral high ground or that they did not when afforded an opportunity commit atrocities of their own.

There are often six or less degrees of separation on issues, people, organizations, etc. Likewise it is possible to concoct all sorts of connections between Muslims in the Balkans to transnational terrorist groups, rouge states like Iran, etc. However, Serbia’s actions were NOT in self defense, they were not because of radical Islamic terrorists, these connections are weak at best, and the arguments are backward looking. Much of this is post 911 nonsense. It’s a revisionist attempt to justify the unjustifiable by exploiting a general awareness of a greater Islamic threat and problem which indeed exists. In Europe as well as North America there today exists a general distrust of Islam as well as an awareness of the threat, a perception which these bogus arguments try to tap into.

Clinton did help weaken our military by allowing for defense cuts far past what a more prudent administration would have allowed throughout the 90s. He played all sort of games, and the Balkan war is actually a good example. Not included in the defense budget, the DoD was requested to fight this war. The DoD never received any supplemental funds to deal with the additional costs and hence the DoD had to take it out of hide, cutting on R&D, procurement, etc to pay for incurred costs. There is a whole list of things one can fault Clinton with (Especially in security matters), but the need for intervention in the Balkans is not one of them.


57 posted on 02/21/2008 5:28:08 PM PST by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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To: Continental Soldier

I think that there two sayings that will over that:
1. What one sows, the same one also reaps.

2. When one lays down with the dogs, one gets up with fleas.

And unlsee I miss my guess, the United States will take part in that reaping.


58 posted on 02/21/2008 5:30:58 PM PST by sport
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To: khnyny

I always wondered about words with vowel-sounding “h’s.”

I don’t think the Bush administration did anyone any favors with the Kosovo love-in.


59 posted on 02/21/2008 6:33:22 PM PST by madison10
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To: JoanVarga

I know that is what a lot of planners here and in
EU think. Knowing the Serbs will react violently, Muslins react to them, radical Muslim elements leave rest of
EU to go help in Kosovo, thus bunching them up
and getting them out of EUs hair....The plan boss,
the plan....Ed


60 posted on 02/21/2008 7:11:15 PM PST by hubel458
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