Hmmm...You post a link from a site that posts this logo all over it..LA Voice? Oh man.....
Posted on 02/21/2008 4:07:43 AM PST by Man50D
WASHINGTON – California, which once lured Americans from near and far, is now driving out millions of the most productive residents – including high percentages of the most affluent.
"When California faced a Mount Everest-sized $14 billion deficit in 2003, one of the major causes for the red ink was the stampede of millionaire households from the state," says a report called "Rich States, Poor States" by economists Arthur Laffer and Stephen Moore. "Out of the 25,000 or so seven-figure-income families, more than 5,000 left in the early 2000s, and the loss of their tax payments accounted for about half the budget hole."
And it's not just the rich leaving.
Based on data from moving companies, California had the second-highest domestic population out-flow of any state in 2005, according to the report, "despite the beautiful weather, beaches, and mountains."
The bad news for California is that it faces $14 billion deficit this year, despite boasting one of the highest tax burdens in the nation.
The report, published by the American Legislative Exchange Council shows jobs are not just leaving the country – they are moving from state to state, with the population following.
"States are in direct competition with each other for human capital and business investment. State governments that think they can attract jobs and people, and grow their economies, by taxing their citizens at a higher rate than their neighbors are sadly mistaken," said Democratic Arkansas state Sen. Steve Faris, ALEC's 2008 national chairman. "Legislators should take a close look at where their state ranks in this book and use it as a tool to help them improve."
(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...
East of Y? I did not know there was life east of the Pacific Coast Highway!
Yeah, but like the superspender, the Feds...Whats a few hundred billion of tax payer dollars?
Every time I open the freezer, I feel your pain.
“AR and CA are both high tax states but the CA taxpayer gets a lot more for his money than the AR taxpayer. “
Can you please cheer me up by letting me know what exactly I am getting for my CA taxes? :)
I wasn't surprised. That's why I don't live in Indianapolis. What you haven't addressed is that the average for Los Angeles is skewed by the large population size. "Los Angeles" could be including many nicer areas of LA, since LA is so big. Also, it's long been suspected that LA fudges its crime stats. Here's a link: http://lavoice.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2525 . Several relatives of mine are or were at one time LAPD or LA County Sheriff's officers...I know what really goes on with this stuff. Even in Riverside, 2/3 of the crimes committed against me were not reported, because the cops didn't want to fill out reports.
“The Midwest is too cold. Make sure you tell everyone in California that.”
Oh and someday Florida will be under water when the glaciers all melt from Globull Warming, an’...an’..nobody speeks Ernglish here no more eether...si, is bad place amigos....
Ya know what? I haven't skewed anything. They only thing skewed here is you. Those are not my charts or stats Freddy. Hello?
I've taken enough of your juvenile, bottom shelf insults and and implications.
I can't help it that your angry that LA has less crime per capita than almost all *major* cities in other states.
Hmmm...You post a link from a site that posts this logo all over it..LA Voice? Oh man.....
That's Echo Park, Olvera Street, Dodger Stadium, and everything between the 110 Freeway and I-5 just a bit north and south of I-101 and I-10.
Folks, dragnet2 is pulling your leg. :-)
wow...
I think that’s right.
Otherwise, the numbers simply make no sense. LA is not a peaceful paradise of law-abiding folk. It’s a very dangerous, very violent city, in a lot of places.
There’s a lot of crime. There’s a reason the police have all those choppers, you see on the freeway chases - there are a lot of bad guys, and the bad guys are on a whole different level than most places. Some gangs, are bigger than the LAPD.
The upside of that is, for the most part if you’re not doing something really terrible, the police don’t really care. Most law-abiding folk don’t need to be too over cautious, because the police are looking for home invaders and gangsters.
The downside is, if you are unfortunate to run into an LAPD (or Highway Patrol) for some offense they don’t mess around, and fines are HIGH.
Things are clearly heading the wrong direction though.
You can feel it.
LOL...Thanks for that laugh...
What did you possibly base that on?
The city limits are depicted on most maps...Look it up and educated yourself. Wha'd d'ya think Los Angeles means? It's a city..Ya know what I mean?
Do you live in LA?
The poster has a (very) valid point.
The numbers could mean anything, depending whether “LA” is defined to include Riverside, Compton, Long Beach, Hollywood, South-Central, East LA.
The section from Broadway downtown, out to Mid-Wilshire, is hardly representative of Southern California - yet that is in fact, “Los Angeles” proper.
Heck, I lived in "LA" for years and can't remember ever actually going into the official city of 'Los Angeles' except to go to Olvera Street or maybe one time to the Staples Center. No, people from Los Angeles don't live in 'Los Angeles'... they live in Culver City and Torrance and El Segundo and so on. Those cities all have their own statistics at that website.
Yet, one mile away from your 'Los Angeles' begins all the high crime satellite cities of South Central Los Angeles that doesn't appear to be included in your data.
You might be tricking some Freepers from Chattanooga TN that's never been to 'Los Angeles', but really now... ;)
Also, have you broken their little website? The graphs don't seem to be displaying anymore.
Post the link that backs this up what you say.
Where do get this? Out of thin air? Answer: yes. lol
Okay, I’ll take another look when that website recovers.
Ya caught me slick. I'm creating my own stats and charts, and that's really Beverly Hills stats. I'm just making this all up.
Boy, you're on the case.
Here, let me prove my point. I just compared 'Los Angeles, Los Angeles' to 'Compton'. They're two individual cities separated by only three miles as the crow flies, yet they're both part of "Los Angeles":
Data collected by using this link.
See, quite different results. Noone hardly ever gets murdered in 'Los Angeles', by comparison. It's all happening in the BAD areas that your search didn't account for, like the City of Compton. However, everyone from Los Angeles knows that Compton is indeed part of "Los Angeles". After all, the police that patrol there may show 'Compton Police Department' on their shoulder patch, but they're really LAPD. The phone books in Compton say 'Compton - Los Angeles' on them with the local ZIP code.
If you were to take the entire Los Angeles Basin into account, I do believe that you wouldn't be able to convince anyone in Savannah GA that their city is some urban hellhole that's got more crime than what you were calling 'Los Angeles'.
That was my point, dragnet2. Now everyone knows.
I was comparing *major* cities? You do know what *major* means right? What don't you get about comparing major cities?
Why are you so distraught about the fact that LA, Ca. has much less crime than most all the other **major** cities in other states?
Must be the leadership.
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