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California exodus turns to stampede
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | February 20, 2008

Posted on 02/21/2008 4:07:43 AM PST by Man50D

WASHINGTON – California, which once lured Americans from near and far, is now driving out millions of the most productive residents – including high percentages of the most affluent.

"When California faced a Mount Everest-sized $14 billion deficit in 2003, one of the major causes for the red ink was the stampede of millionaire households from the state," says a report called "Rich States, Poor States" by economists Arthur Laffer and Stephen Moore. "Out of the 25,000 or so seven-figure-income families, more than 5,000 left in the early 2000s, and the loss of their tax payments accounted for about half the budget hole."

And it's not just the rich leaving.

Based on data from moving companies, California had the second-highest domestic population out-flow of any state in 2005, according to the report, "despite the beautiful weather, beaches, and mountains."

The bad news for California is that it faces $14 billion deficit this year, despite boasting one of the highest tax burdens in the nation.

The report, published by the American Legislative Exchange Council shows jobs are not just leaving the country – they are moving from state to state, with the population following.

"States are in direct competition with each other for human capital and business investment. State governments that think they can attract jobs and people, and grow their economies, by taxing their citizens at a higher rate than their neighbors are sadly mistaken," said Democratic Arkansas state Sen. Steve Faris, ALEC's 2008 national chairman. "Legislators should take a close look at where their state ranks in this book and use it as a tool to help them improve."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: arthurlaffer; bluestates; calbudgetcaexodus; california; californication; democratparty; exodus; immigration; liberals; publicpolicy; stephenmoore; taxes; taxtherich
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To: MileHi
Case in point is the law passed several years ago banning radar/laser jammers, last year implementing a helmet law for underage riders as a start. Some legislators like Merrifield want a full helmet law just like California for motorcyclist.

Talking about the liberal tendency of regulating, the company I worked for (laid off from), the manager I worked for (until 2005) is a liberal democrat. You couldn't do anything without having to ask his permission. The last several months working for him got so bad that I had to stay "glued" to my desk. I step away to go to the bathroom (library option) and I come back to my desk and I get my butt chewed and I was basically told that if I stepped away for more than 2 minutes, I had to notify him where I am going to and what I am doing and get his approval.

>Living in Colorado, our legislature went from being conservative to being liberal.

Yes, and taxes and regulation are going up now. I could just spit. But the Republican party here is a clown show.

141 posted on 02/21/2008 8:09:41 AM PST by CORedneck
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To: Ben Ficklin
"Or, TX and FL don't have income taxes but they have other taxes in lieu of income taxes. "

I've never heard anyone say that it is too expensive to do business in Texas, Florida, Arizona, Missouri, and a long list of other places.

Small businesses are foundering and large ones are either shopping for deals in other counties in CA or being romanced by other states.

Hot tip for small enterprinure today is selling [mandatory] auto insurance to any and all starting at $17 a month. Another is charging to handle vehicle registration in one's native language. I don't see either of those, or lawn maintenance, as doing much for the tax base.

Right now it's even more depressing to watch local real estate dropping like a rock while all the places you want to go to are holding steady.

I'm only here today because I can't lever Ms Norton out of the smog and shopping. [don't remind me, wimping out in my old age]

142 posted on 02/21/2008 8:11:30 AM PST by norton ( There is no longer any choice)
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To: toast
Even Minneapolis Minnesota has substantially more crime per capita than Los Angeles, Ca.

Amazing ain't it?

143 posted on 02/21/2008 8:14:06 AM PST by dragnet2 (q)
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To: wolfcreek

It’s very strange to me. I always assumed it was conservatives fleeing CA. Maybe more liberals are, so they can find “quaint” places to raise their kids. I can’t imagine any self-respecting conservative would move out of CA to another state and then start encouraging regulation.

Maybe if we conservatives stick around in CA, it will turn conservative again. Like the liberal flight from LA causing it to be more conservative now. One can dream.


144 posted on 02/21/2008 8:15:11 AM PST by hoppity
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To: Hatteras
We are inundated with New Jerseyites and New Yorkers who have no problem telling us how "they do it" up north.

You may be right about that. My apologies on behalf of my obnoxious bretheren. I just assumed that, having escaped from the New Jersey Nightmare, they would emerge chastened and humble.

Bad assumption, eh?

145 posted on 02/21/2008 8:20:35 AM PST by gridlock (Proud McCain Supporter since February 7, 2008.)
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To: numberonepal
Is Atlas Shrugging in Cali?

It that's the case, he must have been shot and killed Georgia.

Atlanta and Los Angeles Comparative Crime Ratios per 100,000 People

146 posted on 02/21/2008 8:20:57 AM PST by dragnet2 (q)
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To: Man50D

Kalifornia - a good place to be FROM.


147 posted on 02/21/2008 8:25:35 AM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: P8riot
Kalifornia - a good place to be FROM.

Richmond Virgina and Los Angeles California Comparative Crime Ratios per 100,000 People


148 posted on 02/21/2008 8:31:34 AM PST by dragnet2 (q)
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To: Man50D

OH NO!!!!! Now, all those Blue votes are infiltrating Red States.


149 posted on 02/21/2008 8:34:45 AM PST by no dems (Global Warming advocates have the IQ of a can of Spam.)
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To: hoppity
Maybe if we conservatives stick around in CA, it will turn conservative again.

Nice fantasy, but highly implausible.

Thirty five years ago you could take your rifle or shotgun into the Santa Cruz mtns a few miles from town and plink at varmints & abandoned cars. Our front door was left open on summer nights, and I still remember the big initiative to get people to lock their cars ("don't help a good boy go bad").

How did this happen here? To attribute this nations drift to the left on people in one particular region is a rather ignorant oversimplification, IMO. Maybe there's something else going on.

150 posted on 02/21/2008 8:36:10 AM PST by skeeter
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To: theBuckwheat
If the Left were consistent, they would forbid people from leaving the People’s Republic of Kali. This is the logic they force on the rest of us when we want to leave their government-imposed monopoly of “public” schools. Then the argument is that those leaving will be “taking resources” from those who don’t leave. Same when whites wanted to flee heavily-minority schools.

Been tried once, found not to work without heavy supplements from outside -- see East Berlin/East Germany. Look for it to be repeated soon since the Left is not known for learning from history.

151 posted on 02/21/2008 8:39:05 AM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: wolfcreek

So now it’s becoming Teximexifornia?


152 posted on 02/21/2008 8:41:31 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Cloverfield 2008! Why vote for a lesser monster?)
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To: Man50D

If our national leaders could learn from observation they would see a population fleeing from, high taxes, illegal immigrants, terrible schools, social indoctrination and sexual license.

But they will not learn and this story will be repeated elsewhere.


153 posted on 02/21/2008 8:42:09 AM PST by ears_to_hear
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To: dmw
Even Oklahoma City has more crime per capita in 5 of the 7 major crime categories than LA, Ca.

Oklahoma City and Los Angeles Comparative Crime Ratios per 100,000 People

154 posted on 02/21/2008 8:45:58 AM PST by dragnet2 (q)
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To: arthurus

Well, I don’t intend to move again. And if some idjit tries to tell me that I can’t raise my kids the way I see fit or do whatever I want with my own property, there is going to be a fight.


155 posted on 02/21/2008 8:50:06 AM PST by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat)
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To: gridlock
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That was a good one!

156 posted on 02/21/2008 8:50:56 AM PST by dragonblustar (Once abolish the God, and the government becomes the God - G. K. Chesterton)
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To: MrB
But the fact remains, even places like Kansas City Kansas have more crime per capita than LA, Ca. ((Substantially more crime)).

Kansas City and Los Angeles Comparative Crime Ratios per 100,000 People


157 posted on 02/21/2008 8:52:24 AM PST by dragnet2 (q)
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To: wideminded
Yep, we have two of them living down the road a piece from us. They think their $500/Acre land, which they purchased for $10,000/Acre is now worth $100,000/Acre. It must be the bigger fools than them principle in action.

Semper Fi
An Old Man

158 posted on 02/21/2008 8:52:40 AM PST by An Old Man (Socialism is a tool designed to "socialize" (i.e., confiscate, not create) wealth)
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To: dragnet2

Crime is just one statistic. Personal freedoms are a lot less than they are in Virginia.


159 posted on 02/21/2008 9:02:36 AM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

I think North Dakota is a beautiful state. (But I won’t let that slip out amongst my liberal friends and relatives.)


160 posted on 02/21/2008 9:15:01 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Cloverfield 2008! Why vote for a lesser monster?)
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