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To: F-117A; The_Reader_David

You wrote:

“The Serb population was being eliminated hundreds of years ago. The Turkish Sultan issued a decree to his Albanian Muslim subjects to stop killing Christians as soon there would no one left to pay the taxes.”

I said a hundred years ago - not hundreds of years ago. And if you’re telling me that Serbs have been outnumbered in Kosovo for centuries then how does that help their case for the land any?

And please note, someone - The_Reader_David - made this claim: “You left out the Nazi/Ustashe/Albanian genocide against the Serbs during WW II in your list of causes.” Then I showed that clearly that was not the case since the numbers, and the ratio, were similar before and after WWII. The fact that Sers were once there in greater numbers means absolutely nothing to what is going on now. Maybe Serbs could have done something about this over the last, say, 65 years, huh?

“The Wikipedia entry you link to says there were 12,985 Serbian dwellings and 46 Albanian dwellings in the Kosovo area based on the 1455 Turkish census.”

Again, how does the fact that Serbs have been losing numbers - through whatever means - for centuries help the Serbian claim to Kosovo? It doesn’t.

And please note, AGAIN - The_Reader_David - made this claim: “You left out the Nazi/Ustashe/Albanian genocide against the Serbs during WW II in your list of causes.” Then I showed that clearly that was not the case since the numbers, and the ratio, were similar before and after WWII. The fact that Sers were once there in greater numbers means absolutely nothing to what is going on now.

“Despite two major migrations, in 1871 an Austro-Hungarian army study found the Serbs still had a 2 to 1 superiority over the Albanians.”

And is that the situation today or even since the turn of the 20th century? Again, how does saying Serbs used to be there in greater numbers help the Serb claim now? And please note, AGAIN - The_Reader_David - made this claim: “You left out the Nazi/Ustashe/Albanian genocide against the Serbs during WW II in your list of causes.” Then I showed that clearly that was not the case since the numbers, and the ratio, were similar before and after WWII. The fact that Sers were once there in greater numbers means absolutely nothing to what is going on now.

“So the Albanians stepped up their genocide... “It is estimated that around 400,000 Serbs were cleansed out of the Vilayet of Kosovo [an area including and extending outside the current Kosovo] between 1876 and 1912 , especially during the Greek-Ottoman War in 1897.” The 1871 study showed 318,000 Serbs and 161,000 Albanians. By 1899 the Albanians had reduced the serb population to 166,700 while the Albanian population grew to 182,650.”

Again, how does that matter about NOW?

And please note, AGAIN - The_Reader_David - made this claim: “You left out the Nazi/Ustashe/Albanian genocide against the Serbs during WW II in your list of causes.” Then I showed that clearly that was not the case since the numbers, and the ratio, were similar before and after WWII. The fact that Sers were once there in greater numbers means absolutely nothing to what is going on now.

“It succeeded since by 1921 Albanians had about a 2.5 to 1 margin over the Serbs.”

And what did Serbs do about that since 1921? Nothing? Anything?

“During WWII, massacres of some 10,000 Serbs and ethnic cleansing of about 80 to 100,000. The Serb that were cleansed were not permitted to return By Tito. But he did permit the settling of 100,000 Albanians from Albania.”

And what did the Serbs do about that? Anything? Nothing? How about after Tito died? Anything? Nothing at all?

“With the recent deceleration, the Albanians will step up their ethnic cleansing, Albanization and genocide against non-Albanians, and the extermination of Albanians that don’t toe the UCK line!”

Well, the Serbs, the Serbian Monarchy, and the Communists, so far - from what you yourself have said - actually seem to have rewarded such behavior. Go figure!

“I don’t point this out for you, since you already know this, but for those that are not driven by an Ustasha like hatred of Serbs!”

No one here is driven by an Ustasha like hatred of Serbs - although you make a good case for Serbs seeming to loathe themselves so much that they have allowed themselves to be cowed by communists and people who pander to Albanian Muslims. Why would Serbs kowtow to Muslims like this for the last century, hmmm?


15 posted on 02/21/2008 2:31:00 PM PST by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: vladimir998

Learn how to read for comprehension and then try again!


23 posted on 02/21/2008 6:34:47 PM PST by F-117A (Mr. Bush, have someone read UN Resolution 1244 to you!!!)
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