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For McCain, Self-Confidence on Ethics Poses Its Own Risk [McCain had an affair?]
New York Times ^ | February 21, 2008 | JIM RUTENBERG, MARILYN W. THOMPSON, DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK and STEPHEN LABATON

Posted on 02/20/2008 4:49:57 PM PST by Wallaby

Edited on 02/20/2008 5:05:45 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: bray

Yeah, after 8 years of obama thing country will WAKE UP and throw aside the socialism like europe did after decades of intense socialism.. oh wait..

Frankly, they’re delusional if they think mccain=hillary=obama.

There’s a clear situation that it’s ‘bad’, but if you go towards obama you get not just a somewhat C grade conversavite.. You get a grade A socialist.


841 posted on 02/20/2008 10:24:47 PM PST by MartinStyles
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To: Aln in Eastern WA; jwalsh07
My view: This “story” is designed to change the story from Michelle Obama’s visceral anti-Americanism.

BINGO

842 posted on 02/20/2008 10:25:17 PM PST by nutmeg (Obama supporters: Drink the Kool-Aid? Yes we can!)
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To: TigersEye

Did you vote for Bush either times?


843 posted on 02/20/2008 10:25:18 PM PST by MartinStyles
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To: MartinStyles
" but he’s a whole lot better than the alternative." That's where you and I disagree.
844 posted on 02/20/2008 10:25:53 PM PST by e-male
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To: MartinStyles

Are you a Soros fan?


845 posted on 02/20/2008 10:26:57 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: e-male

Then you’ll vote for obama?


846 posted on 02/20/2008 10:27:01 PM PST by MartinStyles
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To: MartinStyles

Fact is, nobody knows how this election is going to go. It has been a complete surprise to everyone. 5 mos ago it was HilaryCare v Rudy and now look.

Who knows the InSain may win the entire thing by bringing in Independents and moderate dims?? Wouldn’t that drive the Walk on Water conservatives batty?

Pray for W and Our Troops


847 posted on 02/20/2008 10:27:03 PM PST by bray (Go InSain)
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To: TigersEye

Did you vote for Bush ever?


848 posted on 02/20/2008 10:27:17 PM PST by MartinStyles
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To: MartinStyles

Are you a Soros fan?


849 posted on 02/20/2008 10:28:42 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: TigersEye

No, did you ever vote for Bush?


850 posted on 02/20/2008 10:30:07 PM PST by MartinStyles
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To: MartinStyles
"Then you’ll vote for obama?" Not me. I'll find some other candidate to vote for.
851 posted on 02/20/2008 10:30:12 PM PST by e-male
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To: bray
Who knows the InSain may win the entire thing by bringing in Independents and moderate dims?? Wouldn’t that drive the Walk on Water conservatives batty?

That would be fine with me. That would show two things. Conservatives don't support him and the Republican Party doesn't support conservatives.

852 posted on 02/20/2008 10:30:51 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: Wallaby

Did he think the dems wouldn’lt use this against him? He’s dreaming. The liberal press puts him out there as the only candidate who can win, then discredit him so that obama and hillary can have a clear field...

wow, what strategy is that?


853 posted on 02/20/2008 10:31:16 PM PST by television is just wrong (Liberalism is a mental disorder.)
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To: MartinStyles

Twice. Only politician I ever gave money to. After he won in 2000 for his court fight with Algore. Satisfied?


854 posted on 02/20/2008 10:32:15 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: MartinStyles

These are the same hypocrites that started the season spouting Romney=Rudy=McCain and after the conserative candidates flamed, whined like babies cause Romney lost to InSain. They just like pounding their chests on their Apple Crates.

Pray for W and Our Troops


855 posted on 02/20/2008 10:32:33 PM PST by bray (Go InSain)
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To: TigersEye

Yes. You realize McCain just voted to support the Heller case against the DC gun ban rigt?


856 posted on 02/20/2008 10:33:01 PM PST by MartinStyles
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To: Amerigomag
At that time, when confronted with the bribery allegation, Mr. Ethical's answer was: "They (US Senators) all do it!".

According to Bob Bennett, appearing tonight on Hannity and Colmes, when he (Bob Bennett) was Democrat counsel for the Senate Ethics committee, he investigated McCain for a year and half in re Keating, and recommended to the Committee that McCain be dropped from the ethics investigation. The Democrats on the committee refused, because without the inclusion of McCain, all of the Senators named would have been Democrats.
857 posted on 02/20/2008 10:33:34 PM PST by Binghamton_native
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To: MartinStyles
I realize that I just gave you reams of information on his liberal gun control work.

Are you ready to read about his work on Global Warming yet? Algore talks the talk. McCain walks the walk.

858 posted on 02/20/2008 10:34:56 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: bray

Honestly I dunno who they wanted. Hunter? He’d be great, but c’mon.

I swear I’ve learned a lot from internet forums lately on the format wars. hddvd people posted for MONTHS these ridiculous claims that it would win, and are not saying they’ll NEVER buy blu-ray and would rather the entire HD market fail.

People get goofy online. If they can’t get it all, or even most, or even over 50% at all, they’ll sit it out and act the martyr.


859 posted on 02/20/2008 10:35:02 PM PST by MartinStyles
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To: MartinStyles
There is some wisdom in what you say Martin. It is indeed difficult to continue the battle with the alway winning socialist pendulum, so why not concede defeat and let them have their way, showing the country for the first time, what socialism does to economic vitality.

But the thing is, that we have been there before. The New Deal, and other manifestations.

My take, is that even if all the conservatives vote for McCain, it will not be enough to stem the tide. We need to rebuild from the local out to the State, and be ready when the public calls for help again.

That's the reality, and I know that I will likely vote for the nominee, even while hating his guts. But I can't live with myself if I don't, and Obamma wins by a few votes. If he wins by a landslide, which is more likely, I will at least have cast a vote in the right general direction in the name of security and fiscal sanity.

860 posted on 02/20/2008 10:35:07 PM PST by Cold Heat (NO! (you can infer any meaning you choose))
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