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Palestinians should follow Kosovo example: negotiator
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5iS_5y-7raxAQIhNgJDtMOIhadGrg ^

Posted on 02/20/2008 2:42:30 PM PST by kronos77

RAMALLAH, West Bank (AFP) — A senior Palestinian official on Wednesday called for a Kosovo-like declaration of independence in the absence of progress in peace negotiations with Israel.

But Palestinian president Mahmud Abbas insisted he will continue negotiating and that he was "optimistic and hopeful" about the recently revived talks.

"Our people have the right to proclaim independence as the people of Kosovo did. We were occupied long before the Kosovo problem emerged," Yasser Abed Rabbo, one of the Palestinian negotiators, told AFP.

"Measures must be taken with a view to a unilateral declaration of independence as Kosovo did, and the world will then have to ensure the end of the occupation of our land," he said.

He pointed out that the late Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat symbolically proclaimed independence in 1988 but that "it never was applied on the ground as we wanted this to be done through negotiation."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: breaking; islam; israel; kosovo; serbia

1 posted on 02/20/2008 2:42:31 PM PST by kronos77
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To: joan; Smartass; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; ma bell; ...

2 posted on 02/20/2008 2:43:47 PM PST by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: kronos77

The Palestinians prefer the state of Victimhood to the state of Palestine.


3 posted on 02/20/2008 2:47:16 PM PST by Spok (Ignorance is no excuse-it's the real thing.)
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To: kronos77
That sword dancing photo-op, I can't imagine what was going through his mind, IMO it was worse than the hand holding. At least GWB didn't wear a tablecloth on his head.


4 posted on 02/20/2008 2:51:07 PM PST by SJackson (If 45 million children had lived, they'd be defending America, filling jobs, paying SS-Z. Miller)
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To: SJackson

He might aswell...


5 posted on 02/20/2008 2:52:40 PM PST by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: kronos77

George of Arabia


6 posted on 02/20/2008 2:52:43 PM PST by Brian S. Fitzgerald ("We're going to drag that ship over the mountain.")
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To: SJackson

He has to pay for his Presidential Library somehow....

And does this mean that Rhodesians can have their country back now? If UDI’s are suddenly preferable, then they were pioneers..

All that is needed is for Geraldo to suck up to them.../s


7 posted on 02/20/2008 2:57:25 PM PST by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3/Cry havoc and let slip the RINOS)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
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He's absolutely right, they should declare a state based on the 1949 lines which GWB has alluded to. Recognizing that Tel Aviv is historically Arab, all the sand dunes were once theirs. For a time, between the Christian Crusaders and the Turks. Not a long time, as history is written.

They might have some problems with Israel, but after some hemming and hawing, the administration will attempt to recognize them. Recognition doesn't require Congressional approval.

8 posted on 02/20/2008 2:59:26 PM PST by SJackson (If 45 million children had lived, they'd be defending America, filling jobs, paying SS-Z. Miller)
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To: kronos77

And thus it begins. The cat is out of the bag. In twenty years Aztlan, in thirty Canada Nueva.


9 posted on 02/20/2008 3:19:54 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: kronos77

Well, this has been predicted for the last decade, only surprise is that it took the Pallies more than 12 hours to get the press releases out.


10 posted on 02/20/2008 3:37:31 PM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: kronos77

Israel pulled out of Gaza. Completely. All that’s left for Palis to do there is go about their lives and build their little country as they demanded!

But what happens? Rockets launched into Israel, of course.

Exposed for their intentions all along...the destruction of Israel. Only complete tools can’t see that now.


11 posted on 02/20/2008 3:49:03 PM PST by tpanther
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To: kronos77

Just wait until Obama is president. Israel will be treated like we treated Serbia.


12 posted on 02/20/2008 4:09:33 PM PST by montag813
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald
George Bushstein

Bush

13 posted on 02/20/2008 4:53:53 PM PST by ME-262 (Nancy Pelosi is known to the state of CA to render Viagra ineffective causing reproductive harm.)
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To: kronos77

Oh dear god, you knew this was going to happen. Over at the Jihadwatch website, commentator hugh fiztgerald, for all his perceived rashness, lack of tact, and hysteria has a perfect analysis that is defintely worth making note of:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/020037.php#comments

Excercept:

“. Even if one were to accept the notion of an independent Kosovo for the sake of temporary argument, that leaves two Albanian states, and one Serbia, a Serbia that in size and ability to defend itself is more than a match for both Albanian states.

But in the case of this “Palestine,” there are already not one or two but twenty-two Arab states. Israel possesses a land area 1/1,000th that possesed by the Arabs; it has no natural resources while the Arabs have been the beneficiares of ten trillion dollars, since 1973 alone, from a mere accident of geology, with trillions more to come, and a few trillion dollars have been spent by them on the most colossal arms-buying in human history, on campaigns of propaganda against Israel, on establishing armies of Western hirelings among those who formerly or even now hold positions of influence in policy-making, and even in outright bribery of diplomats and heads of state, including a few in Africa who, like Idi Amin, became not only supporters of the Arab “cause” but themselves became Muslims.

2. The men who represented the advanced and civilized world, in the post-World War I settlement determined by the League of Nations, agreed that in the vast territories that had formerly been ruled by the Ottoman Turks, not only the Arabs, but other smaller peoples, either non-Muslim or non-Arab, were nonetheless entitled to a place where they could find their own national expression and, if need be, a sanctuary. There was no place to be found, in the crazy quilt pattern of the MIddle East, where “only” Jews or “only” Kurds or “only” Armenians or “only” Maronites could be found, but that did not mean that the Jews were not entitled to a state, that the Kurds were not entitled, that the Armenians were not entitled (and the Allies originally intended, after World War I, to create the conditions, through the Mandate system, for the ultimate coming-into-existence of a Jewish state, a Kurdish state, an Armenian state, and of course an “Arab State.” The vast territories we have been inveigled into calling “the Arab world” is nothing of the sort, though the phrase came into being thanks mainily to ARAMCO doing its master’s bidding, and the inattention to, and palpable lack of understanding of, all the non-Muslim minorities in the Middle East, and even the non-Arab Muslim minorities in the Middle East, is one of the reasons for the unimaginative and certainly unrealistic policies that have been based, ever since the Dulles brothers under Eisenhower, on a complete misapprehension of Islam.

3. The existence of a Kosovo dominated by Muslims is an affront to Serbia, and to Serbian history, and to the history of the Balkans, and of what Serbians had to endure under Ottoman Turkish rule, and what they fear, or even sense, may happen if Turkey is admitted into the E.U., or if the demographic conquest of Western Europe by Muslims now settled deep within the Bilad al-kufr continues unrecognized, and unopposed.

An affront Kosovo is, and a pity it is, and certainly it poses a geopolitical danger in the longer term, but it is not, as an independent “Palestine” ripped out of the much-diminished land area, that of Western Palestine alone, which in the end, once the foolish calculations of the British to provide a state for the Hashemite princeling Abdullah (so that he would not get into trouble attacking French interests in Syria, and thereby causing Anglo-French discord) caused them to cease to apply the provisions of the Mandate for Palestine to Eastern Palestine, renamed the Emirate of Transjordan, including those about encouraging Jewish immigration and close Jewish settlement on the land. “

And like I said before, there is going to be many non muslims and “cultural”/secular muslism who are going to want to know why they can’t get statehood and freedom from militant muslims if Kosovo can get its recognition as an Islamic state. Chief among them are Biafra(Nigeria), Southern Sudan and Darfur, West Papua and the Moluccas and Bali(Indonesia), Sabah/Sarawak(Malaysia),Balochistan and Kabylia(Algeria). If they don’t get their recongition, now that Kosovo has, the s$$t is really going to hit the fan with regarding the UN, (Sh)amnesty International, the U.S. and EU with their insisitence on recognizing jihadist states but not for non muslim ones under assualt, and who knows who else.

We officially have the biggest political f%%k up since the appeasement of the Third Reich.


14 posted on 02/20/2008 10:43:05 PM PST by ToDieUnsung
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To: tpanther

Yep. Their true aim is the destruction of Israel. They could have done so much with Gaza including building desalination plants, and using the natural gas to produce electricity (and sell in the open market). Instead they languish and complain about their poverty.

Yes, Israel prevents them from building up their port but there is no way, politically, Israel could’ve prevented them from building a desalination plant. Ideally they could’ve bought one of Israel’s new membrane plants which has a very small footprint and could provide enough water for all of Gaza. But anything positive would have been a giant step forward.

Instead, they ‘declared war’ and did not declare a state.


15 posted on 02/21/2008 1:16:59 AM PST by monkeyshine
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To: kronos77

How kind of the Saudi prince to provide the President his very own sword for the cutting off of his very own head.


16 posted on 02/21/2008 9:08:13 AM PST by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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