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Is PBS Still Necessary?
NY Times ^ | February 17, 2008 | CHARLES McGRATH

Posted on 02/20/2008 2:15:43 PM PST by forkinsocket

FOR the eighth straight year the Bush administration has ritually proposed taking a hefty whack out of the federal subsidy for public broadcasting. The cuts would in effect slice in half the money that public television and public radio get from the government. If we follow the usual script, this means it’s time for upset listeners and viewers to rally to the cause, as they have in the past, and browbeat Congress into restoring the budget.

Every year, though, it gets a little harder to muster the necessary outrage, and now and then a heretical thought presents itself: What if the glory days of public television — the days of “Monty Python,” “Upstairs Downstairs,” “The French Chef” — are past recapturing? Lately the audience for public TV has been shrinking even faster than the audience for the commercial networks. The average PBS show on prime time now scores about a 1.4 Nielsen rating, or roughly what the wrestling show “Friday Night Smackdown” gets.

On the other side of the ledger the audience for public radio has been growing: there are more than 30 million listeners now, compared to just 2 million in 1980. “Morning Edition” and “All Things Considered,” NPR’s morning and evening news programs, are the second and fourth most listened to shows in the country. Go figure. Who would have guessed 40 years ago, when public broadcasting came into being, that the antique medium, the one supposedly on its way out, would prove to be the greater success and the one more technically nimble. You can even download NPR broadcasts onto your iPod.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: defundpbs; npr; pbs; television
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1 posted on 02/20/2008 2:15:43 PM PST by forkinsocket
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To: forkinsocket

If it hurts Bill Moyers, I’m all for it.


2 posted on 02/20/2008 2:16:59 PM PST by squidly
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To: forkinsocket

God my mom constantly listens to NPR utter garbage. She generally gets upset when I say we should cut government funding. My argument is if its so popular I’m sure it can stand on its own.


3 posted on 02/20/2008 2:17:13 PM PST by utherdoul
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To: forkinsocket

Why don’t we take the billions of dollars Elmo, Barney and the other toys and games that characters of PBS makes and reinvest in the programming instead of begging us for money to we can be sooo blessed to have them grace our free channels (that have increasingly been interrupted with commercials by the commercial ‘donators’.


4 posted on 02/20/2008 2:17:22 PM PST by Southerngl
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To: forkinsocket

Hell no and it never was.


5 posted on 02/20/2008 2:17:26 PM PST by Richard Kimball (Sure, they'd love to kill me, as long as they can do it without admitting I exist)
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To: forkinsocket

How else is that hack, that hate America filth, that sucking leech Bill Moyers going to make a living without ripping off American taxpayers?


6 posted on 02/20/2008 2:17:28 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: forkinsocket
No.

Anything else? :-)

7 posted on 02/20/2008 2:18:15 PM PST by TChris ("if somebody agrees with me 70% of the time, rather than 100%, that doesn’t make him my enemy." -RR)
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To: forkinsocket

The only time public television has good shows is during fund raising.


8 posted on 02/20/2008 2:18:16 PM PST by Tai_Chung
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To: squidly

See my post. I was writing and seething at the same time as you. Great minds think alike.


9 posted on 02/20/2008 2:18:19 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: forkinsocket

This is a government subsidy of speech. The airwaves have no shortage of speech these days. It’s ridiculous.


10 posted on 02/20/2008 2:19:54 PM PST by freespirited (The worst Republican is far preferable to the best Democrat.)
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To: utherdoul

If listening to NPR for news, it sucks. But, they have some good programming on there, otherwise. I like Prairie Home Companion when I remember to listen to it. While the leaning liberalism sucks, the format is better, because it’s like a conversation on some shows. Not just one guy talking over everyone else.


11 posted on 02/20/2008 2:20:03 PM PST by HungarianGypsy
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To: forkinsocket

Saturday nights would never be the same for the Dr Who fans though. Think of what you’re saying people. :p


12 posted on 02/20/2008 2:20:07 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: forkinsocket

PBS is certainly less useful for education than it used to be with the History channel and the Discovery channel etc.

But in Georgia, lower budget locally produced programming specifically for local schools and local communities does seem to at least moderately worthwhile.


13 posted on 02/20/2008 2:20:33 PM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: forkinsocket

No and either is the NYT


14 posted on 02/20/2008 2:20:34 PM PST by Archon of the East (Universal Executive Power of the Law of Nature)
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To: Southerngl
Why don’t we take the billions of dollars Elmo, Barney and the other toys and games that characters of PBS makes and reinvest in the programming i

My thoughts exactly.

15 posted on 02/20/2008 2:20:51 PM PST by HungarianGypsy
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To: forkinsocket

Yes, as it is the only place where one can get good British dramas, mysteries and comedies. Don’t sentence me to the vast wasteland of American television!


16 posted on 02/20/2008 2:21:10 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: Tai_Chung
The only time public television has good shows is during fund raising.

then they cut into programming with the fund raising. argh!!

17 posted on 02/20/2008 2:22:03 PM PST by HungarianGypsy
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To: squidly

It will never happen. PBS is a main player for the Democrats.


18 posted on 02/20/2008 2:22:05 PM PST by gunnedah
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To: Tai_Chung

Yeah, they roll the old Roy Orbison tape again...


19 posted on 02/20/2008 2:22:53 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
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To: Unam Sanctam

Frankly, I’ve stopped watching since “Firing Line” was dropped.


20 posted on 02/20/2008 2:23:05 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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