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If We Subsidize Them...[Ron Paul]
House.gov ^ | 17 Feb 2008 | Ron Paul

Posted on 02/20/2008 7:31:07 AM PST by BGHater

For decades we have welcomed new immigrants to our American "melting pot". We respect those who come here peacefully to pursue their American Dream. But Americans have noticed lately that modern problems associated with illegal immigration are at a crisis point. Taxpayers are now suffering the consequences.

Costs of social services for the estimated 21 million illegal immigrants in this country are approaching $400 billion. We educate 4.2 million children of illegals at a cost of $13.8 billion. There have been almost 2 million anchor babies born in this country since 2002, with labor and delivery costs of between $3 and 6 billion. There are currently 360,000 illegals in our prisons and we have spent $1.4 billion to incarcerate them since 2001. In Prince William County near DC, ICE can't deport criminal illegals fast enough and has actually asked its local jails to slow down on referring them. Jurisdiction over illegal immigration lies at the federal level, yet many municipalities are struggling with the compounding problems of mandated costs and tied hands. My office has heard from at least one sheriff in my district considering seeking compensation from the Federal government for the cost of so many illegal immigrant inmates that wouldn't be here if the Federal government was doing its job and protecting our borders. The problems are widespread.

One thing is certain: If we subsidize them, they will come. We have rolled out the social services red carpet, so it is no surprise that many from other countries are eager to come take advantage of our very generous system.

We must return to the American principle of personal responsibility. We must expect those who come here to take care of themselves and respect our laws. Not only is this the right thing to do for our overtaxed citizens, but we simply have no choice. We can't afford these policies anymore. Since we are $60 trillion in debt, there should be no taxpayer-paid benefits for non-citizens. My bill, the Social Security for American Citizens Only Act, stops non-citizens from collecting Social Security Benefits. This bill, by the way, picked up three new cosponsors this week and is gaining momentum. Also, we should not be awarding automatic citizenship to children born here minutes after their mothers illegally cross the border. It just doesn't make sense. The practice of birthright citizenship is an aberration of the original intent of the 14th amendment, the purpose of which was never to allow lawbreakers to bleed taxpayers of welfare benefits. I have introduced HJ Res 46 to address this loophole. Other Western countries such as Australia , France , and England have stopped birth-right citizenship. It is only reasonable that we do the same. We must also empower local and state officials to deal with problems the Federal government can't or won't address. Actions like this are a matter of national security at this point.

Illegal immigration is draining and frustrating the American taxpayer. I will continue to work for a solution that does not reward those who break our laws.


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: illegal; immigration; ronpaul; subsidize
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1 posted on 02/20/2008 7:31:08 AM PST by BGHater
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To: BGHater

I bet all the Ron Paul haters on FR wish they had him instead of McCain. He gets the same treatment as Ross Perot. What Perot said is coming home to roost.


2 posted on 02/20/2008 7:36:29 AM PST by Orange1998
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To: Orange1998

Wow. Lets not bring Ross Perot into this.

He was a Giant Gov’t guy and would make McCain look like a libertarian.


3 posted on 02/20/2008 7:38:19 AM PST by BGHater ($2300 is the limit of your Free Speech.)
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To: Orange1998

It’s not so much we hate him, he has some great ideas and positions on issues, we just don’t like the fact he’s too much of an isolationalist, has too much support from white separatists, and just has some really nutty stances on issues we consider important, like saying 9/11 was our own fault...


4 posted on 02/20/2008 7:38:28 AM PST by gjones77
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To: BGHater

ping for later


5 posted on 02/20/2008 7:39:59 AM PST by kublia khan (Absolute war brings total victory)
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To: Orange1998
We must return to the American principle of personal responsibility. We must expect those who come here to take care of themselves and respect our laws. Not only is this the right thing to do for our overtaxed citizens, but we simply have no choice. We can't afford these policies anymore. Since we are $60 trillion in debt, there should be no taxpayer-paid benefits for non-citizens. My bill, the Social Security for American Citizens Only Act, stops non-citizens from collecting Social Security Benefits. This bill, by the way, picked up three new cosponsors this week and is gaining momentum. Also, we should not be awarding automatic citizenship to children born here minutes after their mothers illegally cross the border. It just doesn't make sense. The practice of birthright citizenship is an aberration of the original intent of the 14th amendment, the purpose of which was never to allow lawbreakers to bleed taxpayers of welfare benefits. I have introduced HJ Res 46 to address this loophole. Other Western countries such as Australia , France , and England have stopped birth-right citizenship. It is only reasonable that we do the same. We must also empower local and state officials to deal with problems the Federal government can't or won't address. Actions like this are a matter of national security at this point.

Oh yea...that Ron Paul...what a nut.

L

6 posted on 02/20/2008 7:41:05 AM PST by Lurker (Pimping my blog: http://lurkerslair-lurker.blogspot.com/)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian; George W. Bush; Revelation 911; NapkinUser; DreamsofPolycarp; The_Eaglet; ...

Let Freedom Ping....


7 posted on 02/20/2008 7:42:24 AM PST by CJ Wolf (Ron Paul Ping list - freepmail me to be on it.)
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To: Lurker

Nut is correct but now we are faced with McCain or OKarma as CIC. My point is anybody would do better than those two.


8 posted on 02/20/2008 7:45:36 AM PST by Orange1998
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To: Lurker

Yes, he sounds like a real whacko, doesn’t he? /s


9 posted on 02/20/2008 7:46:44 AM PST by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: BGHater

I am curious about this — does anyone have statistics/ knowledge of how Social Security works? Does everyone get it, regardless of citizenship? I believe illegals are getting it, and that there are two separate systems: one for law-abiding citizens who have paid into it, another for people who don’t have proper identification but who can get it anyway.

I had a friend from Panama, a citizen, who said she would ride on the bus and hear people saying, in Spanish: “I moved up here for ‘my’ retirement benefits.” She would castigate them right then and there. I KNOW this is happening.

Anyone know how to find this out?


10 posted on 02/20/2008 7:48:27 AM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: BGHater

There have been almost 2 million anchor babies born in this country since 2002, with labor and delivery costs of between $3 and 6 billion.
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Prenatal care for the illegal aliens is not considered an emergency...

The “American” has not been born yet...


11 posted on 02/20/2008 7:48:46 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Orange1998

I actually like most of his ideas. I just don’t...how can I say this gently......like him. Maybe it’s shallow but he is lacking in presidential timber.


12 posted on 02/20/2008 7:52:12 AM PST by bubbacluck
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To: BGHater

Run 3rd party Ron, you would get my vote.


13 posted on 02/20/2008 7:53:01 AM PST by dforest
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To: Orange1998
I bet all the Ron Paul haters on FR wish they had him instead of McCain.

Well, a lot of the Paul haters who have been booted out of here over the years are the obnoxious "Bush-can-do-no-wrong-if-you-want-the-border-secured-you're-a-xenophobe" types who still spout their nonsense on other forums these days.

14 posted on 02/20/2008 7:56:51 AM PST by jmc813 (Ron Paul is the only pro-lifer/non-gun grabber left running for President)
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To: liege

And you think that a guy who sings beach boy songs about “bomb,bomb, bomb Iran” is presidential timber? Okay....


15 posted on 02/20/2008 7:57:01 AM PST by Captain Kirk
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To: gjones77
has too much support from white separatists

There is no idea so good that you can't find a fool who supports it.

16 posted on 02/20/2008 7:57:31 AM PST by Sloth (If you took an oath to support & defend the U.S. Constitution, can you vote for its domestic enemy?)
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To: gjones77
His FP is suicidal, but then again everybody else's DP is suicidal!

I voted Hunter!

17 posted on 02/20/2008 7:59:18 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (Glittering prizes, and endless compromises, shatter the illusion of integrity!)
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To: Captain Kirk
And you think that a guy who sings beach boy songs about “bomb,bomb, bomb Iran” is presidential timber? Okay....

Reagan joked about bombing the Soviet Union out of existence. I think he had presidential timber. I did vote for Congressman Paul in the primary. I couldn't pull the lever for McCain or Romney or Huckabee.

18 posted on 02/20/2008 8:01:30 AM PST by bubbacluck
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To: bboop

California has their own program, mayube other states do too. Just drag grandma across the border.

http://www.cdss.ca.gov/agedblinddisabled/PG1420.htm


19 posted on 02/20/2008 8:03:07 AM PST by sheana
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To: Orange1998

Right, Orange, but the GOP big wigs who put McCain on top and caused Romney to drop out did not accept RP. Don’t blame those of us who did not vote for RP in the primaries. Conservatives were split. Some voted for RP, others for Romney and the evangelicals for Suckabee. Still others backed Thompson and Hunter. Dr. Paul never garnered more than 8% of the total vote in all the states so far. WHile he appealed to some, he was not the candidate most Republicans wanted.

He’s decided not to bolt to The CP which has its own problems being on only 15 states’ ballots. That means that, officially, his run is over. McLame will win it shortly. You have to live in realitym and the reality is we need to concentrate on winning the House back for conservatives. It’s our only hope of stopping Amnesty in the future.


20 posted on 02/20/2008 8:04:01 AM PST by levotb
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