[therut]

Everyone here seems to think the drugs cause this. He quit taking his drugs and his behavior deteriorated. This happens all the time. There is not way to make someone take their medicine. The problem is not guns or psych drugs it is mental illness and a free society. These people have all kinds of rights. It is hard to get them help if they do not want it. You can not force them until they prove a danger to themselves or others then it is too late for episodes like this. If they pass a law like this in my state I will refuse to treat any psychiatric disease. Not even mild depression.. I am not going to get mixed up in the legal mess this will cause. No way. There will be alot of physicians doing the same. There are not enough of us now to just treat mild depression and anxiety. Forget this legal knot. 35.00 is not enough to begin to make the worth it headache.

[baa39]

Very interesting from the doctor’s perspective, I see. But the media’s slant to mental illness in crime might be wrong anyway, no one has actually reported that this man had a diagnosis of schizophrenia, bipolar, or whatever. Sounds more like a sociopath when you look at the tattoos and other things in his past.

Also, I have read that the “mentally ill” commit violent crimes at the same rate as the general population, about 2-3 percent. Even with psychosis, I believe most ill people tend to harm only themselves, not others. So I don’t believe the facts warrant the invasion of privacy, patient-doctor confidentiality, and personal liberties that would be imposed by trying through some very elaborate and expensive system to keep guns away from someone who you, as you say, you really cannot predict will do something.

[neverdem]

Everyone here seems to think the drugs cause this. He quit taking his drugs and his behavior deteriorated.

The link in comment# 1 is to PubMed. SSRIs can cause serotonin syndrome when starting therapy or the dose is increased. They also can cause a withdrawal syndrome. One comment stated that the NIU killer was taking Prozac. Prozac has the longest half-life of all the SSRIs.

Making Sense of the Great Suicide Debate

There are a bunch of interesting links on that thread. The last link in comment# 6 is to "The Serotonin Syndrome." It's a pretty good review article.

Antidepressants and Violence: Problems at the Interface of Medicine and Law

David Healy used to be a shill for SSRIs and gave expert testimony for their manufacturers in court. Now Dr Healy has finally seen the light.

Antidepressants are all the rage but have a dark side

Rosie Meysenburg of Dallas and Sara Bostock of California met at a public hearing on SSRIs sponsored by the Food and Drug Administration. Both had strong reservations about the safety of SSRIs. Together, they created a Web site, SSRIstories.com, which catalogs more than 2,000 news stories detailing violent acts -- murders, suicides, school shootings -- by individuals taking SSRIs.