This guy already did. Maybe he could help out by setting up a training school in Dearbornistan.
Perhaps Rep Kieth Ellison could get some federal funding for it, and help him get a temporary visa....
Posted on 02/18/2008 11:40:52 AM PST by Sub-Driver
Muslims Seek Compromises Between Burial Traditions, State Laws
POSTED: 1:52 pm EST February 18, 2008 BRISTOL, Conn. -- Muslims throughout Connecticut say they are finding increasingly creative ways to follow their faith's burial traditions without violating state regulations.
Some mosques are encouraging members to enter the funeral industry, while others hope more cemeteries can be established with the facilities needed for ritual washings and other traditions outlined in the Quran.
Until recently, a Muslim cemetery in Enfield was the only cemetery that permitted interment in simple wooden boxes.
That changed in December when Enfield residents complained to state health officials that cemetery burials were encroaching on land next to their neighborhood. The cemetery must now bury the bodies in the sealed vaults.
"(Muslims) are shocked that this is a requirement now. But these are regulations we have to follow," said Muhammed Haidara, an imam at the Islamic Center in Windsor, which runs the cemetery. "It is not our choice."
Muslims bury their dead within 24 hours and the bodies must be interred without a casket, facing the holy city of Mecca.
Before the burial, the body is washed with soap and scented water, then wrapped in a seamless cloth that is tied at the head and feet. Cremation and embalming are forbidden.
James E. Jones of Masjid Al-Islam in New Haven said Muslim burials are simple, and are similar to "green" burials that don't use embalming and coffins. A wake is usually not held because prayers for the forgiveness of the dead are said at the grave site.
Despite the simplicity, Muslim burials average more than $2,000. Funeral homes charge on average about $900 to transport a body to the funeral home and to the grave site.
(Excerpt) Read more at wnbc.com ...
Observant Jews follow similiar prescriptions (e.g., all wooden caskets, prompt burial) for 225 or so years in this country without problem.
“Green” burials—without embalming or expensive caskets—are available in some states.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3947912/
sounds like a natural ...
I’d like to bury all of them.
More power to the Muslims on this, I say.
I wish I could be buried in a plain pine box but my family cemetery has a concrete vault requirement - think it’s an NC state regulation.
I’d hope things might change within, oh, 50 years sounds good, but regulations seldom become less onerous.
I would imagine that water quality issues would arise in some areas.
“Some mosques are encouraging members to enter the funeral industry”
As customers?
“I would imagine that water quality issues would arise in some areas.”
It sure as heck would be an issue in my neck of the woods (Florida) 3 feet down, there’s water!
Unless there’s public health issues like groundwater contamination, what’s the harm in letting them bury their dead how they wish? Doesn’t seem like they’re asking for anything that hasn’t been granted to other religious faiths throughout our history. (For once!)
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“ways to follow their faith’s burial traditions without violating state regulations”
I thought they were trying to overturn those pesky state regulations against retaliatory suicide bombings, frenzied looting of infidel businesses and hostage taking.
This guy already did. Maybe he could help out by setting up a training school in Dearbornistan.
Perhaps Rep Kieth Ellison could get some federal funding for it, and help him get a temporary visa....
If I didn't have to blast to get even a post hole or hole for a power pole deep enough to plant, I could open up a few acres on the back 1/4 section...and use our native pine to make the boxes.
The funeral industry has been a cartel for decades. In most state until a few years ago it was unlawful to buy a casket except from a licensed undertaker.
The markup on caskets is unbelievable. I don’t remember the figures but as I remember it would shame retail furniture and jewelry industries.
Just look at the numbers above just to transport a body across town $900. I could get a gun safe delivered to my house cheaper.
Does this include burying women alive up to the neck so they can be stoned?
Muzzies have already prohibited Bells from being rung.
My H said the same thing - bury him in the cheapest pine box available - when we first heard about the new ‘green’ burials that are cropping up. All most funerals are is a way to line someone’s pocket. Grave liners or vaults, oh yeah, they tell you they’re guaranteed not to leak for 100 years. Who the h*** is going to know whether or not they do???? Such a rip off and they get people when they’re most vulnerable.
I see nothing wrong with the Muslim way of burial. Heck that’s what our forefathers did. I bet anything my great grandparents don’t have vaults. They used to hold the services at the home, and people sat up with the body, taking turns. I remember my grandmother telling me that funerals were within a couple of days of the death and that after death, one of my relatives was packed with ice and snow so the father who was working on the railroad out of town could get home for the burial. Pine boxes were good enough for the great people who settled this country, it’ll work for me too.
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