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"No Catholic voter or politician can hide behind the evasion - 'Personally I oppose abortion, but I cannot impose my religious beliefs (or my morality) on others.' It is a moral contradiction. Living the faith in the context of democratic pluralism cannot justify such self-deception."

Especially when you consider that the pro-life position is not peculiar to Catholicism.

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[Capt. Tom]

"A Catholic cannot vote for a candidate who takes a position in favor of an intrinsic evil, such as abortion or racism, if the voter's intent is to support that position. In such cases a Catholic would be guilty of formal cooperation in grave evil," explain the bishops.

Until the Catholic Church starts excommunicating the Catholic pols who support abortion on demand, I wish they would just shut up, and stop lecturing their flock on that subject. - tom

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"Human life issues such as abortion, euthanasia, the death penalty, and the violence of war also fall within the scope of social morality."

I fully agree with the part about abortion and euthanasia, but the death penalty for taking innocent life is scriptural and there is nothing I know of in scripture that expressly forbids a Christian to fight and possibly kill in defense of his nation. In fact, it is recorded in the Old Testament that God commanded the Israelis to kill all the men, women, and children of the pagan tribes and nations that occupied the land of Canaan when they arrived there after forty years of wandering in the desert. Furthermore, He later disciplined the nation of Israel for allowing some pagans to continue to live and occupy a part of the land He promised to Jacob's progeny.

I don't know how to reconcile God's command to Joshua with Jesus' command to love our enemies as ourselves. Since the pagan enemies were sacrificing their own children to idols and also warring against the Israelis I can from a human POV understand Him ordering their extermination. But then that complicates knowing how to understand Jesus' command to love our Godless enemies and do good to those who persecute us. But that's no doubt due to my inability to properly understand God's word, and not due to any fault with what seems to be His contradictory commands. More personal bible study is definitely in order for me.

[BlessedBeGod]

"Catholic social doctrine is not limited to the defense and promotion of economic and political rights," begins the letter. "Human life issues such as...the death penalty... also fall within the scope of social morality."

There is no Catholic doctrine governing the use of the death penalty.

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CCC Search Result - Paragraph # 2271  (618 bytes )  preview document matches 1 Since the first century the Church has affirmed the moral evil of every procured abortion. This teaching has not changed and remains unchangeable. Direct abortion, URL: http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/2271.htm

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CCC Search Result - Paragraph # 2272  (580 bytes )  preview document matches 2 Formal cooperation in an abortion constitutes a grave offense. The Church attaches the canonical penalty of excommunication to this crime against human life. "A URL: http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/2272.htm

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CCC Search Result - Paragraph # 2322  (290 bytes )  preview document matches 2 From its conception, the child has the right to life. Direct abortion, that is, abortion willed as an end or as a means, is a "criminal" practice (GS 27 § 3), URL: http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/2322.htm

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Pray for an end to abortion and the conversion of America to a mindset of life!

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