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To: GeorgiaDawg32
"my understanding is the tax will be INCLUDED in every dollar, not tacked on..where did you learn this??"

Take something that now costs $1 - a quart of milk, for instance. With the "Fair Tax," it would then cost $1.30.

Almost any high school graduate would be able to tell you that the 30-cent tax constitutes 30% of the original price...

That the "Fair Tax" advocates express it otherwise is prima facie evidence they are liars and frauds, or fools.

33 posted on 02/16/2008 3:53:34 PM PST by Redbob (WWJBD: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: Redbob

Been awhile since you bought milk? :’)


37 posted on 02/16/2008 3:55:39 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: Redbob

That’s a tad backwards...

It’s:
“Take any item you’d be willing to pay $10 for, and under the FT, you’re only going to get $7.70 worth of that item”


38 posted on 02/16/2008 3:55:56 PM PST by xcamel (Two-hand-voting now in play - One on lever, other holding nose.)
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To: Redbob

wrong..if milk costs $1 now, it will cost $1 under the fair tax, only the tax is included in the $1..

that’s how I understand it..and I’ve read the book..can you show me where you learned it’s added on and from what source?

I’m not tryin to be a bugger here, just want to debate this and see where you are gettin ur facts..


40 posted on 02/16/2008 3:57:02 PM PST by GeorgiaDawg32 (I'm a Patriot Guard Rider..www.patriotguard.org for info on joining.You DON'T have to ride to belong)
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To: Redbob

If you are referring to the Fair Tax, you haven’t the slightest idea of what you are talking about.


184 posted on 02/16/2008 6:11:08 PM PST by Turret Gunner A20
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To: Redbob

Take something that now costs $1 - a quart of milk, for instance. With the “Fair Tax,” it would then cost $1.30.

Almost any high school graduate would be able to tell you that the 30-cent tax constitutes 30% of the original price...

That the “Fair Tax” advocates express it otherwise is prima facie evidence they are liars and frauds, or fools.Take something that now costs $1 - a quart of milk, for instance. With the “Fair Tax,” it would then cost $1.30.

Almost any high school graduate would be able to tell you that the 30-cent tax constitutes 30% of the original price...

That the “Fair Tax” advocates express it otherwise is prima facie evidence they are liars and frauds, or fools.

Ok, I didn’t read the book but I did take high school math and I can see that your argument is just plain wrong. Lets do the math:

$1.00 for a quart of milk with a $0.30 sales tax comes out to $1.30. Now if you spend all of your income on milk, what percentage do you pay in taxes? .3/1.3=.23 or 23%

The reason Fair Tax people would say the tax is 23% is because that is the best way to compare it to the income tax. 23% of what you spend on new products will go to the federal government. You are trying to compare apples to oranges. Apples to apples, the Fair Tax is 23%, apples to oranges its 30%.

I can take your flawed high school math further and say that someone who pays 23% of their income actually pays 30%. It can work both ways. If your gross pay was $50,000 and you paid 23% in taxes, that comes out to $11,500 leaving you with $38,500 net. Percentage of income that is taxed: 11500/38500 = .299 or 30% Wow, its crazy how you can play with numbers. The bottom line is that to accurately compare an income tax to a sales tax you have to apply the same method and compare apples to apples.

186 posted on 02/16/2008 6:12:22 PM PST by Tramonto (Huckabee Fair Tax Huckabee Fair Tax Huckabee Fair Tax)
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To: Redbob
That the "Fair Tax" advocates express it otherwise is prima facie evidence they are liars and frauds, or fools. And THAT is a bigger lie than that alphabet list zcamel posted.
188 posted on 02/16/2008 6:13:16 PM PST by Turret Gunner A20
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To: Redbob; GeorgiaDawg32
Take something that now costs $1 - a quart of milk, for instance. With the "Fair Tax," it would then cost $1.30.

That's not what the Fair Tax folks claim. They claim when the income taxes disappear cost of goods to businesses will be lower and businesses will still continue to charge $1 for that milk with the 23 cent tax (that's how they get their 23%) coming out of that. It is claimed the tax will have no effect on prices.

I think most here can see the problem with that previous paragraph!

Let's not forget the "prebate". This is a government check that everyone will receive to cover the taxes on what the government deems to be the taxes paid on the necessities of life. Great... Make EVERYone a recipient of government largess!

A simple flat tax was a better idea, but that has no support right now.

307 posted on 02/17/2008 2:42:27 AM PST by johnpannell
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