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'Protect America violates Constitution' (More Ron Paul Lunacy)
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Posted on 02/16/2008 7:49:09 AM PST by no nau

Presidential hopeful Ron Paul opposes the extension of the Protect America Act of 2007 as the legislation violates the US Constitution.

"The misnamed Protect America Act allows the US government to monitor telephone calls and other electronic communications of American citizens without a warrant, which violates the Fourth Amendment," Paul said.

Speaking before the US House of Representatives on Wednesday, he said the Protect America Act sidelines the FISA Court system and places authority over foreign surveillance in the director of national intelligence and the attorney general with little if any oversight.

The 10-term congressman added that it does not provide for the Fourth Amendment protection of American citizens if they happen to be on the other end of an electronic communication where the subject of surveillance is a non-citizen overseas.

"We must remember that the original Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act was passed in 1978 as a result of the US Senate investigations into the federal government's illegal spying on American citizens," said Paul.

The libertarian-leaning Texan noted that the only legitimate 'upgrade' to the original FISA legislation would be to allow surveillance of conversations that begin and end outside the United States between non-US citizens where the telephone call is routed through the United States.

"Congress should not use this opportunity to chip away at even more of our constitutional protections and civil liberties. I urge my colleagues to oppose this and any legislation that violates the Fourth Amendment of the Constitution," Paul concluded.

Constitutionalist Ron Paul is an outspoken critic of current US fiscal and monetary policies. He advocates a full troop withdrawal from Iraq and the abolishment of income taxes.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism
KEYWORDS: 110th; fisa; paultards; ronpaul; surveillance
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Do we need any more proof that Ron Paul is unfit to be President or Congressman? Nobody is spying on American citizens. We are monitoring know dangerous foreign groups to prevent more terrorism and it is working.

Isn't there some kind of loony bin that Paul and his 911 twoofer supporters can be shipped off to?

1 posted on 02/16/2008 7:49:18 AM PST by no nau
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To: no nau

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2 posted on 02/16/2008 7:51:27 AM PST by flat
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To: no nau

FISA is an unconsitutional restriction of the enmurated powers of the executive.

It’s a 70’s liberal construct.


3 posted on 02/16/2008 7:53:41 AM PST by Crim (Dont frak with the Zeitgeist....)
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To: no nau
Guess someone out to point out to this lunatic FISA is a law from 1978, not 1787. The US Constitution has nothing to do with the changes in the PAA.. All the Protect America Act does was update the 1978 law to relect the massive changes in communications technlogy since 1978.

What a clueless clown Ron Paul is on this issue.

4 posted on 02/16/2008 7:55:05 AM PST by MNJohnnie (http://www.iraqvetsforcongress.com ---- Get involved, make a difference.)
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To: no nau
Your lack of knowledge on current events is staggering.

Source:

http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2007/12/fbi-recorded-27.html

At the end of 2006, the FBI's Telecommunications Intercept and Collection Technology Unit compiled an end-of-the-year report touting its accomplishments to management, a report that was recently unearthed via an open government request from the Electronic Frontier Foundation. Strikingly, the report said that the FBI's software for recording telephone surveillance of suspected spies and terrorists intercepted 27,728,675 sessions. Twenty-seven million is a staggering number given that the FBI only got 2,176 FISA court orders in 2006 from a secret spy court using the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.

Source:

http://www.sptimes.com/2002/10/10/Worldandnation/Memo_details_string_o.shtml

FBI agents illegally videotaped suspects, intercepted e-mails without court permission and recorded the wrong phone conversations during sensitive terrorism and espionage investigations, according to an internal memorandum detailing serious lapses inside the FBI more than a year before the Sept. 11 attacks.

wake up.

6 posted on 02/16/2008 7:56:03 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (John McCain - The Manchurian Candidate? http://www.usvetdsp.com/manchuan.htm)
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To: no nau
Your lack of knowledge on current events is staggering.

Source:

http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2007/12/fbi-recorded-27.html

At the end of 2006, the FBI's Telecommunications Intercept and Collection Technology Unit compiled an end-of-the-year report touting its accomplishments to management, a report that was recently unearthed via an open government request from the Electronic Frontier Foundation. Strikingly, the report said that the FBI's software for recording telephone surveillance of suspected spies and terrorists intercepted 27,728,675 sessions. Twenty-seven million is a staggering number given that the FBI only got 2,176 FISA court orders in 2006 from a secret spy court using the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.

Source:

http://www.sptimes.com/2002/10/10/Worldandnation/Memo_details_string_o.shtml

FBI agents illegally videotaped suspects, intercepted e-mails without court permission and recorded the wrong phone conversations during sensitive terrorism and espionage investigations, according to an internal memorandum detailing serious lapses inside the FBI more than a year before the Sept. 11 attacks.

wake up.

7 posted on 02/16/2008 7:56:31 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (John McCain - The Manchurian Candidate? http://www.usvetdsp.com/manchuan.htm)
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To: no nau
Makes you wonder, why this guy is still in the race? He’s not garnering enough support to win the position of dog catcher.

Between the snake oil salesman, the loony tune Congressman and Old Mr.McSleazy, America really is in trouble!

8 posted on 02/16/2008 7:56:31 AM PST by alice_in_bubbaland (Wandering in the wasteland of GOP RINO's.)
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To: no nau

What is truly scary are the number of people in this country that think as Ron Paul does.


9 posted on 02/16/2008 7:57:31 AM PST by Dustbunny ((Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged. The Gipper)
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To: Dustbunny

What, worried about invasion of privacy? Strange our founders were the same way. What’s scary are the number of people in this country who think it’s ok. Sure, even if Bush is doing good with this, what’s to stop a Hillary or Obama administration from using this for other purposes? Do you all ever think of unintended consequences?


10 posted on 02/16/2008 7:59:36 AM PST by rb22982
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To: no nau
Nobody is spying on American citizens.

LOL. You haven't been paying attention at all.
11 posted on 02/16/2008 8:00:44 AM PST by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

Oh, don’t worry, Ron Paul was never much of a threat to the continued trampling of the Constitution. I’m glad he is still around to raise the issue.

Just wait until these so-called “tools” are used against conservative “terrorists” who want to threaten the unity and hope and big plans of a future Democratic administration. Then FR will be up in arms about these oppressive laws, if FR isn’t shut down, that is.


12 posted on 02/16/2008 8:04:20 AM PST by oblomov (Molok Obama is so inspirational. He inspires me to offshore assets & buy as many guns as I can.)
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To: rb22982

>>Do you all ever think of unintended consequences?

Apparently many conservatives do not nowadays. It seems that ignoring unintended consequences, one of the many diseases of the left, has even become common among conservatives.


13 posted on 02/16/2008 8:07:27 AM PST by oblomov (Molok Obama is so inspirational. He inspires me to offshore assets & buy as many guns as I can.)
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To: oblomov

LOL! Hysterical BS.


14 posted on 02/16/2008 8:08:03 AM PST by alice_in_bubbaland (Wandering in the wasteland of GOP RINO's.)
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To: mad_as_he$$
Strikingly, the report said that the FBI's software for recording telephone surveillance of suspected spies and terrorists intercepted 27,728,675 sessions.

Of note is that the software at issue, the DCS-5000 gets information from carriers after they turn on surveillance on their switches once they get a court order (CALEA mandates the switches be wiretap-compliant). That means this number ostensibly has nothing to do with the government's secret warrantless wiretapping program, or the government's data-mining of billions of call records.

Your other link was about mistakes made in 2000, before current practices, before 911, and before the current Administration was even in power.

15 posted on 02/16/2008 8:08:41 AM PST by no nau
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

Really?

Perhaps you should revisit the IRS audits of Clinton Administration enemies, the Elian Gonzalez case, or the granddaddy of them all, Waco. Perhaps you should learn about COINTELPRO. The FBI/CIA infiltrated conservative as well as left-wing organizations.


16 posted on 02/16/2008 8:12:56 AM PST by oblomov (Molok Obama is so inspirational. He inspires me to offshore assets & buy as many guns as I can.)
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To: no nau

The Republicans will be more than happy to call on the Constitution if the Democrats are elected and opt to send their private all volunteer army [it will be their army then] to fight in Africa, Russia, China, South America or wherever without declaring war.


17 posted on 02/16/2008 8:13:55 AM PST by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: oblomov

Blind ignorance surrounds us.


18 posted on 02/16/2008 8:18:11 AM PST by FReepapalooza (Look away, look away, look away Dixieland)
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To: no nau

This man is speaking out for us just like Ron Paul:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpVdtwDSg9c


19 posted on 02/16/2008 8:24:45 AM PST by WildcatClan (The epitome of irony is that few entities exist, less common, than common-sense.)
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To: no nau

How dare they call this kook a Constitutionalist. He’s not.

Mr. Lincoln’s Secretary of War Mr. Stanton was correct when he observed that “..the Constitution of the United States is not nor shall it be a suicide pact.”


20 posted on 02/16/2008 8:40:27 AM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("There is no civility, only politics.")
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