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£10 licence to smoke' proposed
BBC ^ | 15/02/08

Posted on 02/15/2008 9:09:28 PM PST by Jakarta ex-pat

Smokers could be forced to pay £10 for a permit to buy tobacco if a government health advisory body gets its way.

No one would be able to buy cigarettes without the permit, under the idea proposed by Health England.

Its chairman, Professor Julian Le Grand, told BBC Radio 5 Live the scheme would make a big difference to the number of people giving up smoking.

But smokers' rights group Forest described the idea as "outrageous", given how much tax smokers already pay.

Professor Le Grand, a former adviser to ex-PM Tony Blair, said cash raised by the proposed scheme would go to the NHS.

He said it was the inconvenience of getting a permit - as much as the cost - that would deter people from persisting with the smoking habit.

"You've got to get a form, a complex form - the government's good at complex forms; you have got to get a photograph.

"It's a little bit of a problem to actually do it, so you have got to make a conscious decision every year to opt in to being a smoker."

He added: "70% of smokers actually want to stop smoking.

"So if you just make it that little bit more difficult for them to actually re-start or even to start in the first place, yes I think it will make a big difference."

But Forest said it would be "an extra form of taxation, while tobacco taxation is already at record levels".

Forest spokesman Simon Clark said that when the cost of administration, extra bureaucracy and enforcement are taken into account, "the mind boggles".

He added that the people most affected by the proposals would be "the elderly and people on low incomes".

Mr Clark added: "The senior government advisor putting this idea forward is not only adding to the red tape and bureaucracy we already have in this country.

"He is openly bragging that he wants to make the form as complex as possible to fill in."

A department of health spokeswoman did not rule out such a scheme as part of the next wave of tobacco regulation.

She said: "We will be consulting later this year on the next steps on tobacco control.

"Ministers are seeking input from a whole range of stakeholders."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: antismokers; britain; cigarettes; england; greatbritain; pufflist; smokenazis; smoking; uk; unitedkingdom
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To: PizzaDriver

Better yet, why not just have smokers sew yellow stars on their clothing?


21 posted on 02/16/2008 12:48:41 AM PST by FR Class of 1998 (the long term solution to corruption is to starve the government of money)
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To: phrogphlyer
"No one would be able to buy cigarettes without the permit, under the idea proposed by Health England."

Psssst...Don't tell the dems that think it is disenfranchising to ask for a photo id to vote.

22 posted on 02/16/2008 12:54:40 AM PST by torchthemummy ("Patriotism is looking out for yourself by looking out for your Country"-Calvin Coolidge)
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To: the lone wolf

It will need to go up. As smokers die off or quit, they will need to replace the revenue that is being lost.
Therefore they will increase fees, which will drive more people to blackmarket or to quit, causing fees to go up to replace lost revenue.


23 posted on 02/16/2008 1:42:34 AM PST by Nailbiter
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To: Jakarta ex-pat

Nanny-statism crap like this makes me wonder how long it will be until the UK implodes. Some day, some guy is going to stand before his governmental watchdogs and say,”F*** Y**!”.


24 posted on 02/16/2008 2:53:28 AM PST by Sarajevo (You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: Jakarta ex-pat
How about a fee for having adultrous sex, it would help with the health care cost of STD's and other sexually transmitted disease.

A much higher fee will be required for same sex act because of the higher rate of spread of diseases including aids.

Of course, they would only do this if it is truly about health care costs.

25 posted on 02/16/2008 8:17:48 AM PST by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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To: w1andsodidwe
How about a fee for having adultrous sex,

In the words of Monty Python about taxing ... "thingy": "Well, it'd certainly make chartered accountancy a much more interesting job. "

26 posted on 02/16/2008 2:20:22 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Rattenschadenfreude: joy at a Democrat's pain, especially Hillary's pain caused by Obama.)
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To: Jakarta ex-pat

70% of smokers want to stop smoking...

100% of smokers want to just be left alone.


27 posted on 02/16/2008 2:24:09 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Jakarta ex-pat; All
War hero told: You can't have jabs to save sight until you are blind in one eye

Coming soon to a freedom near you.

28 posted on 02/16/2008 3:57:38 PM PST by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: catroina54

If they make it free for lung cancer patients that might make make it easier to swallow.


29 posted on 02/16/2008 4:11:19 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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