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To: Quix
Why do you use the word religion as a pejorative?

How do you think the term religion applies to Science? Is the term you are really looking for ‘false-religion’, ‘heresy’, ‘blasphemy’?

What is the belief of Science or Scientism dogma? I am a Scientist and was never told to obey any dogma, I was told what the evidence indicated, and what experiments were done that lead to that conclusion. We don’t just learn that DNA replicates in a semi-conservative fashion, we review the Meselson-Stahl experiment that showed it to be the case.

That is not dogma, it is an indication of what the data supports. One is free to replicate the experiment or find contradictory data; but all assumptions based upon semi-conservative replication of DNA bore fruit, and the notion was further confirmed when the X-ray crystal 3-D structure of DNA polymerase was discovered and Okasaki discovered his eponymous fragments.

83 posted on 02/16/2008 11:09:01 AM PST by allmendream ("A Lyger is pretty much my favorite animal."NapoleonD)
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To: allmendream; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD; Alamo-Girl

It shocks me that a Christian FREEPER would be unaware of the RELIGION OF SCIENTISM and all it’s lop-sided dogmas.

I have no big need to persuade you of the realities about such. The evidence is all over the place and occasionally even mentioned in scientific journals.

I hope science has not become an idol for you.

RELIGION vs RELATIONSHIP is dastardly, destructive, evil through and through.

Even the truth of Christianity has repeatedly been turned into a deadly RELIGION.

Thankfully, Christ is the head of a movement back to right RELATIONSHIP with God and wholesale against all the RELIGIONS, DOGMAS, DOCTRINES OF MAN.


86 posted on 02/16/2008 11:16:03 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: allmendream

Sounds like your studies have been quite comfortably channeled along the lines of the boundaries already set by the priests of your particular discipline. How comforting.

But then Crick et al never were Orthodox Bible believers, were they.

BTW, what are your thoughts on the recently postulated/discovered codings in DNA . . . what uses do you postulate that they serve? What do you see as the major discoveries along those lines in the next 10 years?

And, do you agree that we’ve been able to clone humans for some 30 odd years?


87 posted on 02/16/2008 11:19:14 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: allmendream
Okasaki discovered his eponymous fragments.

Almost the only thing I remember from undergrad biochem class...

Cheers!

94 posted on 02/16/2008 9:15:26 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: allmendream

I suppose you’ve heard about this?

http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2008/02/dna-found-to-ha.html

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February 06, 2008
DNA Found to Have “Impossible” Telepathic Properties
DNA has been found to have a bizarre ability to put itself together, even at a distance, when according to known science it shouldn’t be able to. Explanation: None, at least not yet.

Scientists are reporting evidence that contrary to our current beliefs about what is possible, intact double-stranded DNA has the “amazing” ability to recognize similarities in other DNA strands from a distance. Somehow they are able to identify one another, and the tiny bits of genetic material tend to congregate with similar DNA. The recognition of similar sequences in DNA’s chemical subunits, occurs in a way unrecognized by science. There is no known reason why the DNA is able to combine the way it does, and from a current theoretical standpoint this feat should be chemically impossible.

Even so, the research published in ACS’ Journal of Physical Chemistry B, shows very clearly that homology recognition between sequences of several hundred nucleotides occurs without physical contact or presence of proteins. Double helixes of DNA can recognize matching molecules from a distance and then gather together, all seemingly without help from any other molecules or chemical signals.

In the study, scientists observed the behavior of fluorescently tagged DNA strands placed in water that contained no proteins or other material that could interfere with the experiment. Strands with identical nucleotide sequences were about twice as likely to gather together as DNA strands with different sequences. No one knows how individual DNA strands could possibly be communicating in this way, yet somehow they do. The “telepathic” effect is a source of wonder and amazement for scientists.

“Amazingly, the forces responsible for the sequence recognition can reach across more than one nanometer of water separating the surfaces of the nearest neighbor DNA,” said the authors Geoff S. Baldwin, Sergey Leikin, John M. Seddon, and Alexei A. Kornyshev and colleagues.

This recognition effect may help increase the accuracy and efficiency of the homologous recombination of genes, which is a process responsible for DNA repair, evolution, and genetic diversity. The new findings may also shed light on ways to avoid recombination errors, which are factors in cancer, aging, and other health issues.

Posted by Rebecca Sato.


101 posted on 02/16/2008 10:04:19 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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