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US: Broken satellite will be shot down
Yahoo/AP ^ | 2/14/2008 | Lolita Baldor

Posted on 02/14/2008 12:09:48 PM PST by mojito

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To: AntiKev

Ah, but there’s HAARP to clean out the debris field.


61 posted on 02/14/2008 1:28:27 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Calvin Locke

Just thinking: A meteor is a comparable I think. Any shootdown likely has more than one purpose.


62 posted on 02/14/2008 1:33:43 PM PST by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: nonsporting
I'm sure Iridium would prefer a "comfortable" margin of several hundred miles.

Does the DoD still use Iridium? I remember they bailed out the consortium when Iridium was going to shut down.

Wouldn't that be great fodder it they did hit the NRO sat, and take out a Iridium satellite in the process?

I'll enable satellite display on my astro sw package, and occasionally make note of what satellites are passing when I plan to be stargazing.

63 posted on 02/14/2008 1:42:57 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: mojito

Light Show? I hope they are more specific about the time and place.


64 posted on 02/14/2008 1:45:09 PM PST by wolfcreek (Powers that be will lie like Clintons and spend like drunken McCains to push their Globalist agenda.)
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To: RightWhale
You be sure to post that response on all of them, RW. :^)
65 posted on 02/14/2008 1:46:45 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Spiff

Have you read all 446 pages of that thing? ... You must have to do it for work.


66 posted on 02/14/2008 1:48:41 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Two Thirds Vote Aye
Rocket scientist ping..
67 posted on 02/14/2008 1:57:15 PM PST by Dog
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To: 353FMG

yeah, CO2 but what a nice view, flames shooting across the sky,,,,,,,,,,,,,


68 posted on 02/14/2008 2:12:42 PM PST by vin-one (REMEMBER the WTC !!!!!!!!)
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To: b4its2late

Naw, they’d just make another religion and start worshiping it.


69 posted on 02/14/2008 2:18:16 PM PST by Hoffer Rand
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To: mojito

Why don’t they just use a .50 caliber rifle? According to Henry Waxman they are so dangerous that too many people firing them could slow the earth’s rotation.

/s


70 posted on 02/14/2008 2:51:05 PM PST by Disambiguator
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To: Hoffer Rand

That’s alright as long as they drop evil Islam. Hell, we may even come to like them and they may not want to come to the West but prefer to live near the satellite.

Satellite akhbar.


71 posted on 02/14/2008 2:55:34 PM PST by 353FMG (Vote for the Person who will do the least damage to our country.)
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To: sam_paine
Hmmm. I didn’t think the SM3 had the range/intercept/blah blah.

Try the SM5.

72 posted on 02/14/2008 2:58:48 PM PST by SampleMan (We are a free and industrious people, socialist nannies do not become us.)
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To: 353FMG
Don?t you know that that would only add to the CO2 level in our atmosphere causing an increase in global warming?

You mean like when Alfore talks?

73 posted on 02/14/2008 2:59:52 PM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Still Thinking
Er, Algore...
74 posted on 02/14/2008 3:05:43 PM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: r9etb
IMHO the SM-3 is already operational. Raytheon is building production rounds (not test/eval configuration) to deliver to the Navy (and the Japanese Navy too). I believe the last test shot was done with an operationally certified software configuration on the ship. So it is in-effect "in the fleet" now. (just not in great numbers)

The SM-3 should get even more capable with some of the proposed changes (upper stage etc) that'll let it reach into higher orbits or up for "high loft" shots. The satellite shouldn't be too much of a challenge. Its velocity is a little higher than a sub-orbital ballistic missile. However, it probably has a big radar cross section making it easy to track. Depending on day/night conditions when they shoot they could catch it in sunlight - nice and hot from solar heating against a cold space background. Other than the closing velocity aspect, it should be a turkey-shoot. The SM-3 is one very capable, very "hungry" missile.

75 posted on 02/14/2008 3:12:01 PM PST by CodeMasterPhilzar
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To: AntiKev

Space junk at the extremely low orbital altitudes that this situation will be addressed at decays very rapidly. And, as I stated to another poster, there is a whole lot more space in Space than people tend to realize.

Go ahead and do some calculations for yourself - the results will make you a believer more firmly than my arguing with you will. Say, the probability of an object with 100sq.foot areal projection traversing through the altitude of 70-90nm above Earth impacting one of a thousand small chunks. This danger might last an average of a hundred days or so.

It’s not that hard a computation. I guarantee you’ll need a whole load of zeros after the decimal point ... or a good size negative exponent if you use scientific notation.


76 posted on 02/14/2008 3:14:25 PM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: nonsporting

Nothing as high as Indium is remotely in danger from this rapidly decaying very-LEO satellite or its even more rapidly decaying fragments. Neither is the Shuttle or the ISS.


77 posted on 02/14/2008 3:16:56 PM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: Yo-Yo
4,000 km is just over 2,400 miles high. Stuff at that height will be around a long time. Nothing from this satellite, shot at from below 100 miles up, will make it anywhere near that height.

The pieces that reach that height won't be in orbit very long, because their orbits will so be highly elliptical that the low point will come very close to the Earth (most likely hitting it outright).

78 posted on 02/14/2008 3:20:00 PM PST by supercat
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To: mojito

This will be good practice. Probably was the plan all along.


79 posted on 02/14/2008 3:20:52 PM PST by freemike
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To: Yo-Yo

Bingo. I’m glad others on this thread have been spreading information instead of misinformation.


80 posted on 02/14/2008 3:31:49 PM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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